Are American Christians facing persecution from the Judeo Masonic (Illuminati) - Ask the SPLC and ADL

Vatic Note:  My Question is "Why are the Satanists so afraid of Christians?"  Why are they perpetually all over the world over a very long time, prosecuting, killing, murdering and harrassing Christians? "Why do they hate them so?" I would love some serious answers to those questions.  I suggest you call the ADL and SPLC up and ask them why they have two years in a row called US "Christians" and Constitutionalists and Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin supporters "Domestic Terrorists"  since they, like Iraq, have done nothing to us.  In fact, the only country attacking American since 1967 has been Israel beginning with the Levon affair and the USS Liberty.

They blithely killed 37 American sailors for one reason only.... political gain by using that attack by them  in 1967 to blame on the Egyptians and Johnson was in on it.  Right after the attack Johnson ordered fighter planes to head to Egypt and had to call them back when the damn ship would not sink, not for lack of trying to sink it, on Israel's part, since there were survivors who could squeal on them.  That is the only reason Israel did not take over Egypt sooner than this past several years.  Ironically, it was a Russian ship that showed up and saved the rest of the crew and towed the ship back to port.  The RUSSIAN PEOPLE ARE NOT OUR ENEMIES..... its the khazar Zionists running the country who are the problem.

Ask them how many other countries that they have persecuted the country's  Christians?  Do not tell them about this below and lets see if they will tell you truthfully. Tell them you know about Russia, but want to know about all others.  Let us know if they tell you truthfully.  I would be surprised if they did.  But I would also want to know.  Henry is A real Jewish person with integrity and truthfulness and he has admitted it in this article.  Lets find out if those other two zionist organizations will do the same thing.  They control Homeland Security and you can imagine what they can do to us using a false flag since they have access to our entire spying apparatus, our military and law enforcement.

When he talks about the "Judeo Masonic", he is talking about the lodges set up in Britain that had absolutely no stone masons involved, rather it was the Rothschild Chatham house scam artists along with British Royalty and that is the seriously set up masonic lodge for the exclusive purpose of acting as a front for the York lodge as it was called, and making it appear that its all masonic lodges they control which is not true.  Like everywhere, they have infiltrated and caused chaos and drama where ever they have infiltrated.

Remember, in the protocols of the Elders of Zion, it was a Rothschild that wrote those along with other international zionist bankers and in that document it says they intend to 'BLAME THE CATHOLIC CHURCH' AND THE 'MASONIC LODGES' for what they will do.  By Deception, they brag, we will conduct war.   This is just one of many deceptions they have used over the years.  The deception is so good that we honestly do not know what the truth truly is about who, besides the Khazar Zionists, are partners in this mess.

Christeros- Armed Resistance to Judeo Masonic Tyranny
http://henrymakow.com/2013/05/Armed Resistance-to-Judeo-Masonic-Tyranny.html
by Olivier Lelibre
(Abridged by henrymakow.com)


Was the murder of priests and destruction of churches confined to Judeo Masonic (Bolshevik) Russia?   No.

In the 1920's, hundreds of priests were tortured and murdered in Mexico when the Freemason President Plutarco Elias Calles ordered the suppression of the Catholic Church. "For Greater Glory" a superb film released last year, now available on Netflix, documents the Cristeros uprising where thousands of Christians took up arms against the Government of Mexico and forced it to compromise. The rebellion, from 1926-1929, claimed  57,000 government soldiers and 30,000 Cristeros "insurgents" plus civilians.

Never heard of this rebellion? Neither have Mexicans.  Freemasons, who espouse freedom and tolerance (for their own evil), don't want you to know about armed resistance to their tyranny. According to historian Ruben Quezada, "As recently as the 1980s it was difficult to find a single book that mentioned anything substantive about the Cristiada. If it was mentioned, it usually was no more than a single sentence in President Calles' biography.  

School systems did not include the Cristiada as part of its history so that future generations would soon lose any knowledge of it... There is more freedom of the press today, and a large volume of untold stories about the Cristiada -- testimonies and images that were illegal to print or publish for many years -- are finally emerging. There are literally thousands of testimonies coming to light that reveal an inspiring history that has been hidden for decades under a dark shadow of fear and denial."

American Christians are facing persecution from the Judeo Masonic (Illuminati) government of Barack Obama. They may get inspiration from this story which defines the true occult nature of the tyranny enslaving mankind. --- --- ---
<See this half-hour documentary

20th Century Mexico's Catholic Uprising
by Olivier Lelibre
(Abridged by henrymakow.com)

In 1924, Plutarco Elias Calles became President. For this descendant of Spanish Jews, a 33rd degree Mason, "the Church is the unique cause of all Mexico's misfortunes." For him, too, she had to disappear. [He was a tool of the Illuminati bankers, the masters of the Mexican economy in 1914: Rockefeller (rubber), Goblentz (textiles), Guggenheim (mines), Hearst (alias Hirsch) who owned 3 million metric acres, and the Kuhn-Loeb bank, which financed Lenin.]

SPLC Finally Notices Oath Keepers/Jeffrey Earnhardt NASCAR Project

Vatic Note: I love it, this entire article is about how this group is going to poke a finger in the eye of the ADL and the SPLC who run Homeland Security's false flag drills that end up killing Americans.  Its not that they hate Oath Keepers, its that they hate Americans, and they hate everyone who is not Khazar, pedophiling, Satanic, Zionists.

This does a great job of showing just how much these Israeli dual citizens hate Americans and our country and their intent to do everything within their power to divide it up, and destroy it.  And we are paying them trillions in our tax dollars to pay for that destruction.   How perverse is that?  Now is the time to pay serious attention.  They are not through yet, but they are also becoming more and more exposed with every single attack they do against us to weaken us for their world war.  Even the sheep are waking up, reluctantly, but finally.

I will keep my vatic note short since this author does an excellent job assessing and analyzing the issues and the players.  Read it, its well worth the effort.  I have some notes disbursed below as usual, when I get hot under the collar. LOL

SPLC Finally Notices Oath Keepers/Jeffrey Earnhardt NASCAR Project
05-01-2013  •  Oathkeepers

eye of sauron


The lidless eye of Sauron has finally turned its gaze upon our NASCAR project, and is not happy.  From the SPLC site:

Jeffrey Earnhardt, a young prince of one of NASCAR’s royal families, and the Oath Keepers, a conspiracy-spinning “Constitutionalist” group, are joining forces for an upcoming race that “could help make Oath Keepers a household name.”
At least that’s the pitch – and the hope – of the Oath Keepers founder, Stewart Rhodes, as he tries to raise $30,000 in time to get a car on the track for a June 1 NASCAR-sanctioned second-tier race at Dover International Speedway in Dover, Del.

Tries to raise?   More like raised.  As I write this, we are at $26,584.00 with eleven hours to go in our fundraising campaign, on the verge of reaching our $30,000.00 goal.   As Yoda said, there is no try. Do or do not.   We are doing it.   Consider it done, especially as our supporters read this today and reflect on the fact that nothing will annoy the constitutionalist-hating radical leftists fascists nazi's at SPLC more than seeing an Oath Keepers car on the track. (VN: Changes in line above done by me as being more accurate)  Nothing.  Rather than spend five bucks at a Starbucks, or on a six pack after work, they can give the gift that keeps on giving.


Mark Potok’s worst nightmare, on wheels.
(Mark Potok on Declare Your Independence Radio Show :)

At least SPLC correctly describes Jeffrey Earnhardt as a “young prince of one of NASCAR’s royal families.”  That he is.  And a stand-up, patriotic “traditional” American to boot, who has the courage of his convictions.  He does his family proud. 

As for Oath Keepers, SPLC also correctly describes us as “comprised mostly of active-duty police and military, as well as veterans,” though they leave out the first responders within our org.   

As usual, they try to pigeon-hole us as conspiracy theorists worried about a “New World Order” while entirely ignoring our very clear and continuous opposition to well-documented assaults on the Bill of Rights such as the PATRIOT ACT (granting FBI agents power to write their own warrants, known as “National Security Letters”); the gun confiscation during Katrina; the NDAA of 2012, which authorizes military detention, trial, and rendition of anyone, including Americans without due process. (VN: In case you do not realize it, it effectively suspends Habeas corpus which has been a staple of our republic for over 230 years.  How are you going to get around that Mr. Zionist hater of America and Americans?)

Quantum physics has confirmed it - the universe is comprised of information: Here's what it means

Vatic Note:  A very good treatment of health information based on a scientific approach and the role of quantum mechanics in obtaining and maintaining a healthy condition.  Its fascinating and we can prove it to ourselves by experimenting with these below.  Give it a try.  I know little about this, so I will leave my comments to those areas I have a firm opinion about.  

Quantum physics has confirmed it - the universe is comprised of information: Here's what it means   
by: Zach C. Miller, Natural News


(NaturalNews) As quantum physics can now confirm, the universe we live in is not made up of solid objects but of energy and information. This discovery holds vast implications for understanding the nature of our world and in understanding the true source of vibrant health. It also means that it is possible to encapsulate all the concepts discussed in the world of holistic natural health into a single unified theory.


Universal law: The true source of health or disease

Since we reside in the universe, it is dictated that we are subject to universal and natural laws. That being said, in an information universe made up of energy, health or disease can only come from one place. That place is from information. The concept goes like this: When the cells in our bodies are aligned with pure, healthy sources of information, we are healthy. Likewise when we are exposed to distorted information fields, we can experience ill-health if we don't remove the source of the distorted information.

Sources of healthy information fields and distorted information fields

So what are some examples of pure information fields and distorted information fields, you ask? Well, some examples of pure information is eating pure, natural, uncooked organic food and pure filtered water. Putting that type of fuel into our bodies injects pure energy spin and leads to vibrant health. Some examples of distorted information are junk food and the electro-magnetic fields generated by wireless networks and cell phone towers.

Junk food laced with GMOs has a negative information energy spin which will eventually cause ill-health if we continue to consume it, while EMF radiation is a source of negative and distorted information which disrupts the body's energy field and which over time will rob us of vibrant health if the source of the distorted energy is not removed. Pathogens are another source of distorted, disharmonious information. If harmful bacteria or a virus becomes lodged in our system, it creates distortion in the normal operations of our bodies and will cause ill-health.

Encapsulating all health-related information into a single concept

As you can probably tell by now, this information has fundamental implications in the arena of natural health. What it means is that essentially, all information, articles and suggestions we read about natural health are directing us to fill our lives and bodies with clean, health sources of information while avoiding and reducing sources of distorted information. 

This is the unified key to the source of all health and healing as well as the source of all ill-health and disease. If we use our logic and intuition, it becomes relatively easy to deduce whether a food, energy field or environment is filled with pure spin energy or distorted energy. Then we can consciously make the choice whether or not to interact with said information source. This enables us to powerfully take control of our health destinies and, by extension, our lives; something that all health-conscious individuals are directly or indirectly seeking.

Sources for this article include:




About the author:
Zach C. Miller was raised from an early age to believe in the power and value of healthy-conscious living. He later found in himself a talent for writing, and it only made sense to put two & two together! He has written and published articles about health & wellness and other topics on ehow.com and here on NaturalNews. He currently holds a Bachelor's degree in Applied Science.

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Join the global March Against Monsanto on May 25th as 286 cities rise up against corporate evil

Vatic Note: I just read that Hungary just burned all crops in Hungary that were GMO seeds. So Gates is lucky we  have not done that YET.  I do believe Europe is GMO free.  We need to be next.   They are lucky we are only marching and protesting, but you know what the next step should be?   Now these are things we should have done a long time ago, however, better late than never.   What Monsanto deals in, is death, organ damage, DNA manipulation,  toxic poisoning of our bodies,  sterilizing our young people in order to reduce the population, if not genocide them.  I could go on, but suffice it to say that such a march, if it results in millions showing up, is well worth the effort to show the powers that be, that mobilizing millions will be no problem, should we have to, in response to their treason against our nation.

Many have said they have done nothing because they cannot see how they could make a difference, since they are only one person.  Every person who thinks that way, could show up for their local protest against this khazar owned corporation, and do so in the millions and then you can see what one person can do, when joined with others who feel the same way.   Whatever little we can do, we should do or forever hold our tongues. No simpler way to put it.

If millions also show up for Kokesh's march on Wa DC, with armed gun owners carrying with open carry, than that sends the same message only much stronger.  Its time, and the sheep are truly waking up in record numbers, so its a perfect opportunity to tell the FDA, the USDA and the government as well, that we are genuinely fed up and we are not taking it anymore.  We have absolutely nothing to lose and they have everything to lose if they push this to the ultimate limit.  

We actually owe the PTB a debt of gratitude and why is that?   Because the governments recent and on going assault actions against we, the people, has resulted in our learning that we are actually in a good position since we proved we do not NEED this or any government.  Not good for Governments at all, but great for us to realize "We are on our own, and we can succeed in proving how good that can be".  We are watching ad hoc governance in the organizing all these marches.  Imagine what we could do to the good, if we make up our minds to do so.  Enjoy the read.

Join the global March Against Monsanto on May 25th as 286 cities rise up against corporate evil  
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger,  on Natural News,  May 7, 2013

(NaturalNews) A popular revolt against corporate fascism is under way across the planet. Simultaneously spanning 286 cities across the planet, the March Against Monsanto on May 25th aims to spotlight the crimes against nature, farmers and food consumers currently being pursued by Monsanto, a company widely believed to be the "most evil corporation" on the planet.

Marches are already planned in hundreds of cities across the planet. Click here to find the march nearest you.

Or, if you wish, start your own March Against Monsanto in your local town. Click here to get started.

The official page of this event is:

And the Facebook page for the March Against Monsanto is found at:

Keep it peaceful

I will be joining the march in Austin, Texas to help voice opposition to the incredible evils being routinely carried out by Monsanto (working in conspiracy with the USDA).

For the record, this is a non-violent march so please do not bring pistols or rifles to the event. Please behave with civility so that your message is heard with credibility.

If the march is attacked by police, do your best to get it on film so that lawsuits can be filed against the municipal police departments who initiate such behavior. Any police officers who oppress or physically attack peaceful protesters will be publicly named and shamed across the internet.

Be warned that provocateurs will likely be hired to join the crowd and attempt to initiate violence in order to discredit all activists. DO NOT be suckered into anyone who approaches you and says something like, "Hey, we should throw smoke bombs into the capitol building" or other such nonsense. They are probably working for the FBI and trying to get you to commit felony crimes so they can crack down on the entire march. The FBI routinely plots false flag attacks across the USA in order to say it's "stopping terrorism."

This is how the real world works, folks. How do you think Monsanto got into a position of such power in the first place? Don't be naive. Be smart. Be peaceful but above all be heard. And don't be suckered into taking part in violence.

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California dad ‘begged for his life’ as police beat him to death – witnesses

Vatic Note:   Do not feel sorry for these cops.  I feel the commenters gave them to much of a break on this beating.  If the perp was drunk, than what they did is even worse.   Add to that the fact that he was begging for his life,  shows he was doing anything but resisting.  In fact, what they did was second degree murder, with a very big jail sentence for the perpetrator, and if they do not arrest those officers and try them with all the evidence, then this is not a police state, its a full out dictatorship with military tactics against the general population and thus we have true domestic enemies in the Fusia centers, the Israeli dual citizens and the cops they hired.

Here is why this is happening all over the country.  State police and municiple cops are hired and work for the system and the politicians, NOT THE PEOPLE.  Sheriffs are all elected, so they work for the people and they are the highest law officers in their county, that includes Feds, cops and Chiefs of police in Municipalities.

Even though the non elected LEO's take an oath to protect and defend, it does not  include being accountable to the people who pay their salaries, the taxpayer.  Further,  I believe these FUSIA centers put into various states by the feds, and run by SPLC and the ADL are there to train these cops including the heads of the depts, to do like the TSA does. 

Israel, who is training our cops, (Remember, Bloomberg sent the NY cops to train in Israel, I wonder if the NY taxpayers know about this?) does this very same thing to the Palestinian people, which is to brow beat, humilitiate, demean and make subjects cowtow to their power and get them used to being beaten, brow  beaten, humiliated and subjected to brutal force and power. Killing is another matter altogether.  That man had the right to "Life" etc and they took it from him and his children. That is criminal violation of civil rights which is title 18 and carries a 250,000 per offense penalty.  The first time a cop has to pay that, will  be the last time he ever does this.  9 cops times 250,000 each is about 3 million dollars.  

In fact, that is exactly what is says in the protocols to do to the goyim, since violence and brutality works.  Add to that I bet the hiring profiles of these cops has changed dramatically.  I bet they have to be psychopathic to some more or less degree and power hungry and I bet the hiring includes testing for that.  They have  to have no problem violating the law and infringing on our rights, has to be a game for them to do so without getting caught.  Just my humble opinion.  When that worm turns, they will get the message big time.

If they were smart, they would look to the  people for support since LEO's in dictatorships end up getting the short end of the stick.   There have been examples of that in many third world countries and during WW II in Nazi Germany where the underground, killed relatives of the cops who collaborated with the enemy of the people of Germany.   Its not going to be easy being a cop in this environment that is emerging.  Principle and integrity will have to prevail if the police want the support of the community they are policing.   

California dad ‘begged for his life’ as police beat him to death – witnesses

AFP Photo / Jonathan Alcorn
AFP Photo / Jonathan Alcorn
A California father of four died Wednesday shortly after a group of police allegedly beat him with batons as he lay defenseless on the sidewalk. Cops, before confiscating witness' cameras, also reportedly unleashed a canine unit on him.

David Sal Silva, 33, allegedly resisted when police approached him to ask if he was who neighbors called about to complain of an intoxicated man in the area.

The officers called for backup and, witnesses told the Bakersfield Californian, Silva was soon being beaten in the face and upper body by as many as nine policemen and their batons. At least one of the cops reportedly held a German Shepherd on a leash nearby.

Witnesses who had recorded the events on their cell phone cameras had the devices confiscated by officers, who claimed the footage was part of a police investigation that could yield evidence.

The Sherriff’s Department has released the names of seven officers who were on the scene, but the identities of the California Highway Patrol police who were also there have not yet been made public.

“When I got outside I saw two officers beating a man with batons, and they were hitting his head so every time they would swing, I could hear the blows to his head,” said witness Ruben Ceballos, who told the Californian the noise was so loud it woke him up.

AFP Photo / Kevork Djansezian
AFP Photo / Kevork Djansezian
“His body was just lying on the street and before the ambulance arrived one of the officers performed CPR on him and another used a flashlight on his eyes but I’m sure he was already dead.”
Police have refused to comment, citing an ongoing investigation that could take years to complete, but relatives have demanded the cell phone footage be made public.

My brother spent the last eight minutes of his life pleading, begging for his life,” said Christopher Silva, 31. The true evidence is in those phone witnesses that apparently the sheriff deputies already took. But I know the truth will come out and my brother’s voice will be heard.”

An autopsy was completed Thursday but the cause of death’s release is pending a toxicology report and microscopic studies, the local coroner’s office told the Bakersfield Californian Friday.

The family has hired attorney David Cohn, who told reporters they plan to file a civil rights lawsuit in federal district court next week. He sent a letter formally requesting that law enforcement agencies do not tamper with the video evidence on the phones.

We all know that a picture is worth a thousand words,” Cohn said. And thank God we have concerned citizens who take video and pictures of incidents like this and who are ultimately policing the police … But we will get to the bottom of this and I ask the sheriff’s department once again, what are you hiding?

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U.S. Beekeepers Have More Bees Than Anytime in 3 Years

Vatic note:  Has anyone seen any honeybees lately?   If so let us know and what state you are in.  Given all of the recent chemtrailing, and other weather anomolies, its hard to believe that the bees are recovering to some degree.   I do know that the DNA of all creatures on the planet including bugs and bees are stored in the arctic seed bank.  I do believe human DNA is also there, but that is not confirmed.  Yea!  I saw honey bees today nect

Sometimes out of bad comes good.  According to this article many changes have taken place in the bee keeping business that was long overdue and sorely needed, so in that instance,  bad led to good.  What is important is to know if the improvedments are sustained and I have not been able to confirm that yet, but will keep looking.  Read about the good happenings in this article below.

U.S. Beekeepers Have More Bees Than Anytime in 3 Years  
by Kim Flottam, The Daily Green

I've made the comment that beekeeping has changed more in the last two years than in the last 20, and every day that comment becomes more and more clear. Beekeepers that suffered extreme losses from Colony Collapse Disorder did one of three things:
  • They quit
  • They didn't do anything, and then they quit.
  • They changed what they were doing, and are still around today.
More changed than didn't, and that means they are still around today.
But beekeepers that didn't suffer from Colony Collapse Disorder, or had only a touch of the plague, made changes too, and they are still around and in fact are doing well and growing.

Those changes have been huge in terms of what they have managed to do with the number of colonies they have, and even more so in terms of the paradigm shift in colony management techniques.

What's different, you ask? We've mentioned this before but it really bears repeating because it has made such a difference. Probably the major shift has been in how beekeepers monitor for, and control varroa mites in their colonies. Better techniques are being used to find and count mite populations, and safer and kinder techniques are being used to control those mites.

This is good because mite populations don't build up to lethal numbers, lots of mites aren't able to pass along destructive viruses, and the control agents previously used are no longer building up inside the colony.

Beekeepers are feeding their bees more food when food is scarce, feeding them at a more appropriate time in the season, and feeding them better food. All have contributed to better wintering, better buildup, and healthier colonies.



Vatic Note: The CIA was not around during the end of the war when Mengeles was ferreted away by submarine to South America after serving a stint with the nazis in our government.... (Prescott Bush and Zionist bankers ring a bell?)  It was MI6 and Mossad who controlled Mengeles, but at least they admit Mossad was instrumental in this act of barbarity since Mengeles was forced to continued his experiments if he wanted to live and be free.

They could not do away with children here for his experiments as people made a huge fuss if their children went missing, so South America became the third world country they decided to use instead, where poor and impoverished children were plentiful for his work.

Parents there did not mind losing another mouth to feed when there was so little for them.  Even our military did a report on the brutality and unethical works of Mossad and they called them extremely dangerous to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS. That has turned out to be true of just about every group and organization associated with Israel and their khazar Zionists.

by Aangirfan admin,  Sept 2008

(VN: What do we ever need utube for?  Its working for the PTB with respect to the gutting of these videos.  Good thing competition is stepping up.)

Did Mossad protect Josef Mengele, in order to please the CIA?  (VN: No, they did it on orders from their superiors since the CIA was not around at that point in time.  They were created under truman, so there is no connection until after the creation of the CIA BY MI6 WHO ALSO RAN MOSSAD.  The controlling interest is the British Monarchy which is controlled by Rothschild in London.  Lets start speaking the truth to power for a change.  Truth shall set us free.  It was the British and her collaborators in Israel that decided to set him free and as Truman said before  he left  "I wish had never created the CIA since I have no idea what they are doing and they do not report to me"  He also said he did not know who they were working for.  Well its the same British that killed Diana for OCCULT REASONS.... that gives you a hint where we are going to end up if this continues.).

Rafi Eitan, former boss of the Israeli security service called the Bureau of Scientific Relations, has been speaking to the AFP news agency about Josef Mengele and Adold Eichmann. (AFP: Mossad scrapped 1960 plan to nab Nazi 'Angel of Death': minister )

Eitan was in charge of the Mossad operation that led to the capture of Adolf Eichmann.

According to Eitan, Mossad, in 1960, cancelled a plan to capture notorious Nazi doctor Josef Mengele in Argentina.

Reportedly, Mossad had found that both Mengele and Eichmann were living in Buenos Aires.

Eichmann was captured by Mossad and eventually sent to Israel. Several days after Eichmann was snatched, Mossad boss Issar Harel put forward plans to catch Mengele.

Eitan now says: "I opposed the plan... We did not have sufficient knowledge for the Mengele mission."

Harel then agreed to scrap the plan to capture Mengele.

Eitan says: "After Eichmann, I returned to Argentina but Mengele was gone and we lost his tracks."

Allegedly, Mengele died in Brazil in 1979. But this may be disinformation.


Mengele may have been living in the USA or Canada rather than in Argentina or Brazil.  It has been reported that Mengele worked for the CIA.  Allegedly, Mengele helped the CIA with MKULTRA mind-control experiments.

According to this source: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/green.html, "MENGELE told my informant THAT HE personally did the training on Oswald... Oswald was trained as a 'patsy' only."

Reportedly, Mengele lived in Montreal during 1962, 'suspectedly to work in setting up MKULTRA experiments at the Alan Memorial branch of McGill University in Canada.' - Cached

According to this source: http://www.mengele.dk/, Dr. Josef Mengele, during Nazi rule, tortured men, women and children.  (VN:  Many of Josef's "eugenics experiments" were documented funded by Rockefeller during WW II and he is still funding Eugenics today.  Now that is a man who should have been put in jail decades ago, but then BETTER LATE THAN NEVER).

Some victims were put into pressure chambers and some were frozen to death. Children were exposed to experimental surgeries performed without anesthesia. The doctors made injections with lethal germs and removed organs and limbs.

"At Auschwitz Josef Mengele did a number of medical experiments, using twins. These twins as young as five years of age were usually murdered after the experiment was over and their bodies dissected.Mengele injected chemicals into the eyes of the children in an attempt to change their eye color. He carried out twin-to-twin transfusions, stitched twins together, castrated or sterilized twins. Many twins had limbs and organs removed in macabre surgical procedures, performed without using an anesthetic."

From this source: http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_crime&Number=293213627, we learn that, "according to the Times, the torture experts at Guantanamo are able to seek advice from a group called the Behavioral Science Consultation Team."

The Lancet disclosed that doctors and other health professionals were complicit actors in the torture that took place in Abu Ghraib as well as in Afghanistan and that they were collaborating on the design and practice of psychological and physically coercive interrogation.

After World War II, Anglo-American fascism seemed to continue:

1. In 1946, Project Paperclip secretly brought more than 1,000 Nazi scientists to the US. Among them were: Kurt Blome, who had tested nerve gas at Auschwitz, Konrad Schaeffer, who forced salt into victims at Dachau.

2. Experiments in mind control via drugs and surgery became part of the CIA's Project Bluebird.

3. Japan's Dr Shiro Ishii, who had experimented with prisoners in Manchuria, came to Maryland to advise on bio-weapons.

Dr D. Ewen Cameron

Cameron used technique of “psychic driving,” by which unsuspecting patients were kept in a drug induced coma for several weeks and given electroshocks, while electronic helmets were strapped to their heads and repetitive auditory messages were transmitted at variable speeds.

Many of those exploited were abused children from the Roman Catholic orphanage system.

John Marks, author of The Search For The Manchurian Candidate, tells us: “The frequent screams of patients that echoed through the hospital did not deter Cameron or most of his associates in their attempts to ‘depattern’ their subjects completely."

Israeli spy admits Mossad allowed Josef Mengele to escape
Mossad scrapped 1960 plan to nab Nazi 'Angel of Death': minister
aangirfan: Mengele, Oswald, the CIA
aangirfan: The Zionists are in bed with the Nazis

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Satanists Control Britain With Blackmail - Insider

Vatic Note:   Well, does this surprise you?  Not me, since Britain has a very long history going back to our revolution, of khazars running the nation as  Germans. The Current occupant of the throne is an ashkenazi, and German by the name of Saxe-Gothe-Berg, but changed it in early 1900's to "Windsor", hoping the British people will forget that they are German and not British.   

That is why it appears that Britain is more controlled by Israel than even America is at this point.  Remember, the khazars were one of seven cultures that worshipped the phallic symbol and that says it all right there.  Just look at this list below, and a big part of that list we covered on a blog way back in 2010 and again in 2011 with different players at the time.

Its never going to stop as long as these people are kept in power and the British, like us in America, have to face that reality.   Its not going away by itself and hasn't for hundreds of years.  Its time to decide, like we have to do, just what kind of country do you want for yourselves and your progency?  What kind of  life for your nations children?  Who will protect them against these demonic satanists? So far, no one has.  

We all should be ashamed.  It screams volumes about a civilization by how they treat their children.  If that is the measure, then we in Great Britain and America are worse than the filthy barbarians kicked out of Mongalia who settled in Khazaria, since we know and do nothing about it.  The Queen and her racist husband should be prosecuted and punished for what she did to the 10 indigenous Canadian children they  slaughtered for their satanic ritual, and those are only the ones we know about.  Lord knows how many others there are that we don't know about, but someone does.

Its a serious question because the answer will determine the horrific or great life your children and their children will have in the future.  If we do not want anymore "Princess Diana" type deaths, then we best get on it, pronto.  I can imagine the kind of childhood both Prince William and Prince Harry must have had in that satanic household.  That is probably why they had to kill Diana, to get to her sons.   

We are putting up a video by David Icke about how to deal with all of this is great numbers.  Watch it when it comes up. "Non-Compliance -together- We have the power." You will see the beauty of it is in large numbers they cannot make you comply.  One at a time they can, but the rest must continue to stand and there are not enough of them to do the job and no where to put that huge of numbers.   It will take courage, but more powerfully, we must have the "heart", "the empathy", and the "love" to stay with it and hold the energy that they will try to drag down with their fear, hate and anger.  

Satanists Control Britain With Blackmail - Insider
http://henrymakow.com/2013/05/Satanists-Blackmail-Britain.html -
by Red Ox, of Henry Makow site,  on May 12, 2013

"We have Operation YewTree [investigating Jimmy Savile, et al]  in Britain. The idea that the British Investigators who all work for the Freemasons who work for Evelyn Rothschild  who controls the people by getting them to commit obscene acts on video are going to come up with something, well I think it's unlikely!"


[EDITOR'S NOTE: While not in a position to confirm these claims, I present them for your consideration.]

Previously by Red Ox

Sex Cult Runs UK Government
Royal Arch Sociopaths that Rule UK
UK Leaders are Brainwashed Torture Victims -

by Red Ox

If you ask a local Mason about "The Royal Arch," they might be scared, assuming they know what goes on. Maybe they joined Masonry to progress up the career ladder, get told what to do by a semi-official government official and call it a day. 

(left, Lucifer's UK enforcer, Evelyn de Rothschild)

You can join The Royal Arch after joining the friendly and relatively insignificant local lodge. It is for the people who "will do anything, absolutely anything to get on". A British Intelligence Officer involved - an ex Director General - told me "we have our fair share of sociopaths".

Indoctrination is by degree, but if you are caught by the Royal Arch as a child, as I was,  you will be subject to such deliberately traumatic rape, torture and "mind control" that a normal person disassociates.  (VN: That is why I think Diana was killed as she probably would not let them do to her sons what is normally done to these children of the bloodlines.)

Injections are administered to prevent recall, and drugs such as Rohypnol are used along with electroshock punishment. Most of the people involved in the Royal Arch would have been through this at the hands of their own "Illuminati" or "multi-generational-Satanic" family. For example, Douglas Hurd (Foreign Secretary) and his son Thomas Hurd ('Diplomat'/MI-6 Officer) Hurd. They will then often suffer displacement - meting out similar punishments to others - and cognitive dissonance identifying with the organization that abused them.

The best way to understand how they work together is to see the agenda as "a force". They are Luciferian but some take it more seriously than others. Either way they all agree that the way to prove one's power is to cause suffering to others and that "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law". If you can imagine what 'normal' people regard as the worst possible philosophy, you will also be pretty close. (VN: remember that saying in red above was the mantra of Mr. Occult himself, Alistair Crowely and was used by his very ardent followers. They should have added onto that "...no matter who it hurts, harms or damages")

In a previous article, I went through the torture techniques of electroshock with cattle prod. My parents were not Satanists, but those who are in with the Royal Arch can let their offspring be 'treated' with electroshock therapy three times a week. At the extreme, Miley Cyrus's father (left) used to rape her live at Bohemian Grove as one of the leading attractions.


Today, I want to be specific about actual pedophiles in music, entertainment and politics.  I can confirm from my experience that the cult is everywhere. I mean literally everywhere: you will not be successful in "Allied" music or entertainment industry without being part of it. If you know that, it should make turning off MTV entirely rather than have your unconscious or subconscious mind subverted.

When people watch Royal Arch music videos/live performances or watch entertainment programs, the information is "hidden in full view".  The most obvious recent example for British readers is Jimmy Savile, whose cathphrase "Jim'll Fix It For You" was also used in child rape sessions with all his British government chums. "Has Jim Fixed it for You?" an enthusiastic Thomas Hurd would ask a child rape victim.

Another prominent child rapist who was then forced to do Rothschild bidding is the former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. An Intelligence minion like Hurd would ask him if he wanted a go with a boy, and the PM would say "that's very prudent of you". Planned in advance, he then used this phrase an inordinate  amount of times in the mass media to millions. Easy to understand when you know how.

Fifth Grader Claiming to be in the Illuminati Threatened to Stab Students As Sacrifice to Satan

Vatic Note:  Remember, those who are "controlled opposition" get favored access and recognition by the banker owned MSM. It appears that is the case with this Mark Dice.  Also, don't forget, these disinfo people always  include much truth, and then take you down the path of "controlled opposition" that these bankers want you to travel. We saw that with OWS, and other such movements that went no where.  I put this up so you can ferret out the truth, such as the story itself, but also the reasons this is happening to our kids. 

Mark is for real when it comes to the role of the music industry, but that is not even 1/10th of what they are doing to our kids.  Was that girl diagnosised ADHD? Was she on drugs?  Did she show any earlier signs of such actions?  If not, then this may well be totally bogus using a mind controlled child and setting her up. He has some truth in it, but not near the whole truth. 

Such truths as the intentional demise of our school system, the clothing and colors promoted by the satanists that then make fashion statements out of those favorite Satanic symbols, skulls and bones, body piercing which is a desrespect for ones own body.  The fact that kids are the ones promoting it, is a bonus for the Satanic minions, since its the death of innocence for a child to begin down that path. 

Captured at childhood through Pedophilia as child protective services has done, along with putting 50% of their wards on drugs, could result in total ownership of that soul in adulthood.  That is why these happenings are so important for us to know and to counter as soon as possible.  PARENTS AND TEACHERS,  ADHD IS A BOGUS DISEASE CREATED TO SELL DRUGS AND ACHIEVE HIGH PROFITS FOR THE DRUG COMPANIES.  You are simply going to have to "raise" your children if you are a parent and "Teach" these kids and deal with their kidness, if you are a teacher..... TOO BAD, DEAL WITH IT.  OR GIVE THEM UP TO THOSE WHO WANT TO RAISE CHILDREN.   Wake up and smell the treason.

Fifth Grader Claiming to be in the Illuminati Threatened to Stab Students As Sacrifice to Satan
Published by Jimale on May 11, 2013
A fifth grader claiming to be a member of the Illuminati threatened to sacrifice classmates to Satan and then grabbed a scissors and tried to stab a fellow student. Here's the local news story about the incident. http://www.news10.net/news/article/24...


Mark Dice is a media analyst, political activist, and author who, in an entertaining and educational way, gets people to question our celebrity obsessed culture, and the role the mainstream media and elite secret societies play in shaping our lives. Check out Mark's books in paperback on Amazon.com or e-book on Kindle, iBooks, Nook, or Google Play.

Mark frequently stirs up controversy from his commentaries, protests, and boycotts, and has repeatedly been featured in major media outlets around the world.

Several of Mark's YouTube videos have gone viral, earning him a mention on ABC's The View, Fox News' O'Reilly Factor, CNN, Drudge Report, TMZ.com, and other mainstream media outlets. Mark has also been featured in (or attacked in) the New York Post's Page Six, Rolling Stone Magazine, USA Today, The New York Daily News, and in major papers in Pakistan and Iran.  (VN:  These alone should warn you to beware.... but take what you see as truth and discard the rest)

Mark Dice ... He enjoys enlightening zombies, as he calls them, (ignorant people) about the mass media's effect on our culture, pointing out Big Brother's prying eyes, and exposing elite secret societies along with scumbag politicians and their corrupt political agendas......

He has called into several top-rated talk shows dozens of times, including the Sean Hannity Show, Glenn Beck, and Michael Savage, and verbally battles with the hosts on various issues since he has never been asked to be a guest on them as of yet. Audio of some of these calls are then posted online.(VN: That is definitely one of the signs of a disinfo agent.... calls into the MSM  shows and does bogus fighting with them that only goes to expand marks notoriety and credibility for the evil ones in using him.0

The term "fighting the New World Order" is used by Mark to describe some of his activities, and refers to his and others' resistance and opposition (The Resistance) to the overall system of political corruption, illegal wars, elite secret societies, mainstream media, Big Brother and privacy issues; as well as various economic and social issues.

Dice and his supporters sometimes refer to being "awake" or "enlightened" and see their knowledge of these topics as part of their own personal Resistance to the corrupt New World Order. This Resistance involves self-improvement, self-sufficiency, personal responsibility and spiritual growth.

Mark Dice is the author of several books on current events, secret societies and conspiracies, including his newest book, Big Brother: The Orwellian Nightmare Come True which is available on Amazon.com, Kindle and Nook. While much of Mark's work confirms the existence and continued operation of the Illuminati today, he is also dedicated to debunking conspiracy theories and hoaxes and separating the facts from the fiction; hence the "Facts & Fiction" subtitle for several of his books. He has a bachelor's degree in communication from California State University.

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Ke$ha’s Unreleased Song “Dancing With the Devil” Sums Up the Music Industry

Vatic Note: It looks  like the artist has changed her mind after becoming a satanic hit.  What disturbs me more than what she has to say, is the fact that there are that many people who are satanically based, that they have made her a hit.   If that is the case, then those of us doing this might have to reconsider all our efforts on behalf of our nations people.   If they are willing servants to these fascist zionists satanists, then maybe we should move on from here and let what ever the satanists have planned, finish it all and see if these goyim satanists will enjoy the life that has been planned for them.

I hate to sound cynical, but unfortunately, the social engineering has worked and its our children and we have done no screaming about it, nor have we removed the ipods, the TV's nor done the home schooling to get them away from the indoctrination centers they now call schools.   Maybe we deserve what we are about to get.  For now, I believe at this point our only salvation is turning back to God, since this is a spiritual war. 

These kids get drugged because they act like kids and someone has to deal with it and they don't want to, its easier to drug the kids than to raise or teach them, then they get satanized and that ends any resemblance those kids will have to real Americans when they grow up, that we have always been.  I am disgusted right now, and its going to show in these blogs for a while.  We adults are the problem.

Ke$ha’s Unreleased Song “Dancing With the Devil” Sums Up the Music Industry
By Vigilant Citizen, April 11, 2013


Ke$ha’s latest album Warrior is apparently not what she wanted it to be. When Dr. Luke signed on as executive producer of the project, he reportedly scrapped all of the songs Ke$ha and her mother Pebe Sebert originally wrote for the album.

It is important to point out that Dr. Luke is currently a leading figure in the music  industry as he produced tracks for the likes of Katy Perry, Britney Spears, Jessie J, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna and many other pop stars. Some of his singles were analyzed on this site such as Britney’s Hold it Against Me, Jessie J’s Price Tag and Katy Perry’s Part of Me. In short, he’s one of the people who tells industry puppets what to sing – and what they sing is part of an Agenda.

More recently, Dr. Luke co-wrote and produced Ke$ha’s comeback single Die Young – a song with a message that fits right in the elite’s Agenda, accompanied with a video loaded with Illuminati symbolism (read the article about it here). In the wake of Sandy Hook, Ke$ha took to Twitter and claimed that she was forced to sing that song.

Frustrated with her situation, Ke$ha wrote Dancing With the Devil – a song that aptly describes what happens to pawns of the music industry. Some describe this song as a diss track aimed at Dr. Luke. However, if you carefully read the lyrics, Dancing With the Devil deals with a topic much larger than a single producer. It’s about the cost of selling one’s soul for fame and fortune.


I keep on dancing with the Devil
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I sold my soul, ain’t no turning back
I keep on dancing with the Devil
You and I made a deal
I was young and shit got real
Weaving through Heaven and back
Your love is made of dirty gold
But I’m the one who sold my soul
So go ahead and take my hand
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I sold my soul, it’s a dead-end road
But there ain’t no turning back
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I can’t escape my filthy past
I made mistakes, I made ‘em last
I know you love to watch me cry
So while I’m yours until the end
A holy war, I’ll never win
So I’ll keep dancing ’til I die
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I sold my soul, it’s a dead-end road
But there ain’t no turning back
I keep on dancing with the Devil
He’s got my mind (You got..)
He’s got my soul (..Hell to pay)
My… he won’t let me go!
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I keep on dancing with the Devil
I sold my soul, it’s a dead-end road
But there ain’t no turning back
I keep on dancing with the Devil
You and I made a deal /I was young and shit got real”, Ke$ha explains how young and naive artists are taken advantage of and recruited by the industry. Lured by fame and fortune, these young hopefuls agree to not only a legal contract but to a life changing oath that has profound implications on their entire being.

Lines such as “So while I’m yours until the end / A holy war, I’ll never win”  convey a sense of powerlessness versus the powers governing Ke$ha’s life. The notions of complete control coupled with the dark spiritual theme underlying the song is not surprising when one knows that it describes an entity that uses Satanic Ritual Abuse and Monarch Programming to achieve its aims.

In short, the song describes the dark side of the Illuminati industry as described on this site. It is about desperation, written by someone who apparently realized that she went too far on “a dead end road”. As if to confirm the message of the song, the producers scrapped it from the final album.

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Commissioner Littleton & Sheriff Maketa: NDAA Nullified in El Paso County Colorado

Vatic Note:  This is a MUST WATCH AND LISTEN video.  I can't remember the last time I ever heard an elected official speak AND ACT, in a manner that this man has done and was representative of what our founding fathers intended when they passed the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  What an exciting event to have happen and what a joy to see a man of integrity and courage speak about those things we have almost forgotten, that is our great legacy in this rapidly deteriorating system of governance by the people, and for the people.

I feel the same way about the Commissioners of that county as well.  It does take courage and a willingness not to be bribed to do the wrong thing.  The Feds and state use their grants to the sheriffs and county commissioners offices to force them into doing their bidding on these fed and state assaults upon our rights.  You could tell by his passion, that he truly believes in his mission as a Sheriff and what a gift to the citizens of El Paso county to have a man who cannot be bribed, he refused the grants if it came with instructions to violate the peoples protected rights.

Its truly time for all publicly elected officials to take a hard look in the same way and resign or withdraw if they do not have that same deep belief in their sworn duty to uphold all that is our God given rights, as well as protect and defend. I suspect we will all soon be finding out if our own elected officials are of the same metal as this sheriff and commissioner were in that county.

Please watch and read this.  Its something you either have not seen in a very long time, or ever, if you are under 40 years of age.  Not since JFK have I seen this same high level integrity and courage in the face of unbelievable threats and danger to our nation.  In most cases, that sheriff is all we have standing between us and abject tyranny.  We must offer to be deputized for him as his posse.  It makes a difference when a posse consists of a million deputies.  LOL

Our Archuleta County Commissioners just passed a resolution upholding the 2nd amendment and are in the process of visiting another resolution nullifying the NDAA  bill in our county as well as providing us with a liberty zone here on all violations of our Bill of Rights, so the movement is happening.

Commissioner Littleton & Sheriff Maketa: NDAA Nullified in El Paso County Colorado
Uploaded by CountySheriffProject on Feb 18, 2012
El Paso County Commissioner Peggy Littleton shares with the sheriffs and peace officers in attendance on Monday how she and her board developed and passed their resolution to nullify indefinite detention prescribed in the National Defense Authorization Act passed Jan 2012. Littleton tells the history of how the pre 1930's German democratic republic and its demise inspired she and Kim Green (of Freedom Action Coalition Team or FACT) to draft protections of habeus corpus and civil liberties.

El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa, who supports the nullification measure, explains how prior to the current board of commissioners he felt he stood alone, when it came to upholding the people's liberties. Maketa explains how and why he swears in, himself, all of his deputies and, in an unusual move, his civilian staff as well. Maketa also shares his account of how and why he ceased performing random vehicle checkpoints.


On January 30-31, 2012 over 100 county sheriffs and peace officers, from over 30 states, united to uphold their oaths of office, protect citizen liberty, and stop state and federal tyranny. Inspired and led by the example of former Graham County Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack, the meeting, which was held in Las Vegas, was funded by the generous donations of thousands of Americans from all fifty states, as well as the support of freedom loving sponsors. 

The agenda included training on the Bill of Rights, Interposition, Nullification and the importance of Property Rights versus Privileges.  Many sheriffs, a police chief and even a county commissioner shared their experiences, challenges and actions taken to uphold their oaths of office, directly with the sheriffs in attendance.

The videos of these presentations are shared here on the County Sheriff Project YouTube channel. We hope that you will share these videos with your own county sheriff and all the oath takers in your county.  To read the meeting agenda, see the event sponsors, learn more and show your own support for helping back more constitutional county sheriffs, visit http://www.CountySheriffProject.org

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"Now that the SOB is Dead..." A Novel Idea: Asking an Afghan about Afghanistan

Vatic Note: They are really messing with this one.  Jerking it back and forth so I can't even type.  This is getting old, and I am getting tired of it.  Maybe I should go in the field and get away from the computer.  Its a thought.  Will ponder it for a while.   I wish to take this moment to thank all of those from many countries overseas who have written such great letters/emails to us about how important our work has been to them.   

When you do this work, you always hope and believe its helping and working, but to actually have many write to us and say so, is very rewarding and makes this all worth while.   I wish to thank an  new email writer for her kind words today from South Africa and encourage her to continue learning and opening the mind and eyes to who the true culprits really are.    

If we do nothing else, but that,  it is all worthwhile.   Knowing who the culprits are,  means we can do something about it and we know who to direct that attention to... so everyone hang in there and keep pushing your elected reps to dig down and get the courage to stand against these people BEFORE they cross that line into treason, when it will be too late to recant.  The first step is to reject your loyalty oath to Israel.  Its a foreign nation and not operating in America's best interest.

Read this, its very good and its a whole different ball game than what we have been lead to believe.  Its somewhat on the order of Benghazi in that sense.  Disinfo used to mislead us.  Now we get the straight skinny from the Afghani's themselves.  

"Now that the SOB is Dead..." A Novel Idea: Asking an Afghan about Afghanistan

By Greg Palast for Vice Magazine
Friday, 10. May 2013
"Now that the sonovabitch is dead, why is the US still angry with us?"

"Us", in this conversation, are the Taliban. The SOB in question is Osama bin Laden.

The Taliban’s frustration was relayed to me by Yahya Maroofi, Counsellor to Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai – Karzai's Kissinger, if Kissinger had a soul.

The Silk Road nation of Kazakhstan is an excellent place to encounter the dervishes of the Great Game for control of the camel-and-pipeline routes of the Central Asian steppes. Here we can witness the diplomatic-military idiocies of new empires pathetically attempting to ignore the dried skeletons of the imperial forces that went before them.

Maroofi was spending the day in Kazakhstan’s capital on his way to little-noticed peace negotiations – little noticed because neither Uncle Sam nor Great-Uncle Britain were invited. Attendance is limited to those frontline states that will be left holding the grenade when the US and UK pull out the pin with the removal of their troops in 2014. The lineup includes Kazakhstan, Russia, Kyrgyzstan (birthplace of the Boston Bombers) and the big new swinging dick on the block, Turkey, as well as Iran, the nation most feared and despised by the Taliban. The unannounced guests, of course, are the Taliban themselves.

I am moved to recount a bit of my lengthy talk with the Afghan minister after reading reams of meretricious bunkum about Afghanistan from the pens of US propaganda repeaters pretending to be reporters. My favourite is, “Hope Seen for Afghanistan After Coalition Leaves,” in the New York Times. To give us an expert view, two American reporters used their 20-column inches to take down the words of General Joseph F Dunford Jr, commander of all “international forces” in Afghanistan.

Dunford just arrived in Afghanistan for the first time about 12 weeks ago. He may not know a Tajik from a camel fart, but he does speak fluent Pashto. (I made that last one up because I’m tired of Europeans making fun of Americans for being ignorant of foreign languages.) Notably, the Times article about the future of Afghanistan includes not one word from an Afghan.

But the General does have lots of medals (see?), so I suppose he's as good a source as any.
I did wonder why the Times flew reporters all the way to Kabul to speak to a bewildered US general when they could have saved time and painful immunisations by just copying the Pentagon press releases in Washington. The Times asked “Fighting Joe”, as he's called in his official bio, the only question of concern to the US press: “Will the Afghan troops be able to resume lead responsibility" in killing Taliban? “Yes!” asserted the tourist-general.

So I figured, what the hell, let’s ask an Afghan about Afghanistan’s future. Maroofi, the minister into whose hands this future falls, takes a different tack entirely. He has no time for the American fixation on whether Afghans will fight the Taliban. He makes it clear that Afghans don’t want to fight the Taliban at all. And the Taliban don’t want to fight fellow Afghans.

But General Joe wants the Afghan army to prove its mettle in “fighting fellow Muslims and countrymen”, as the Times puts it. It appears the US has a great fear that, without US boots on the ground and drones in the sky, the war will end, and with it, the Great (and very lucrative) Game.

However, it is the hope of most Afghans, and the goal of the Karzai government, not to kill Taliban, but to bring them into the government.