RH neg - DNA evidence for Atlantis Beyond the Bering Strait - DNA Evidence Rocks the Boat

Vatic Note:   RH Negs, and everyone else, this is extraordinary research and work with New technology in the DNA field.  I was shocked at the results of the findings.  This is not for fast food info reading, rather serious students of the historical origins of people and especially some tribes of American Indians. This surprisingly shows the migration of American indians to this continent and how it may not have been as first thought.

In fact, the migration and the haploDNA tracking not only identifies the migration, but also the origins of those migrating, which is where the surprise is for the Basque, Berbers and two or three specific American Indian tribes.   Keep in mind that there are American Indians found with blue eyes and some with blonde hair.

Those tribes were the ones they could not trace back to Asia, rather they were traced back to the Middle East and not Africa where they say we all came from.  There were no MTHaploDNA markers in the originating continents, so these tribes were not part of the asian influx into the country across the Bering Straights.  What is so amazing about this is the role that Edgar Cayce played in PREDICTING THESE PEOPLE EXISTED, and where they came from etc.   He did this through channeling.  So this confirms the legitimacy of Channeling as well as other facts we had not known.

My question is,  "Could Joseph Smith have experienced the same thing?"  Are these below the Latter Day Saints?  If so, then it explains why the Catholic church went after them viciously.

Coincidentally, those mentioned in the last sentence above, not only share the same MTHaploDNA, but also the RH neg blood designation.  Now how strange is that?   Its amazing what we did not know about our history.  

DNA evidence for Atlantis Beyond the Bering Strait - DNA Evidence Rocks the Boat
by Will Hart

In recent years, genetic research has produced unexpected results that have opened the doors to many historical mysteries.  The surprising outcomes have also provoked unintended controversy.

The reasons that these DNA investigations have sparked intense debates in the fields of anthropology, history and even cultural evolution will become clear as our story unfolds.

The genetic probes began innocently enough with geneticists wanting to see what secrets human genes might reveal about our complex, mysterious and often disputed history.  Anthropologists and historians had long thought that the America's had been populated by Asians crossing a land bridge that connected Asia and North America during the last Ice Age.

This was referred to as the 'Bering Strait Crossing' theory and was believed to have occurred about 12,000 years ago. Genetic analysis on Native American DNA samples began in the 1980s. However, the research effort greatly accelerated in the 1990s due to rapid technological progress in the field.

In fact, the early results confirmed the generally accepted theory showing a clear link between Native Americans and DNA samples collected from native peoples in Siberian-Asia.  Nevertheless, as the studies both deepened and broadened to include Asians across the continent, the increasing data revealed that the migration pattern had been more complex than anthropologist's had envisioned.
The early results showed that Native American tribes were comprised of four distinct mtDNA haplogroups,
A, B, C, and D. 

The haplogroup designations represent four different (maternal) lineages.
These four lineages are found throughout North, Central and South America.

However, only three of them A, C, and D were discovered in the Siberian-Asian populations.
The B haplogroup was traced to aboriginal population groups in Southeast Asia, China, Japan, Melanesia, and Polynesia.

Before proceeding we should briefly clarify what mtDNA is. 

There are two types of genetic material used for analysis, cellular and mtDNA,
the latter is found in human mitochondia outside the nucleus of cells  and is only transferred down generations through females, hence mtDNA stands for maternal DNA.

This type is simpler than the cellular DNA and it evolves faster,so it is used to distinguish human groups that evolved in separate geographic areas.  In historical terms, what the genetic evidence obtained from mtDNA samples translated  into was a much more diverse and complex migration pattern that included people arriving to the America's in boats.

Thor Heyerdahl had hypothesized that this was the case by showing that it was possible during his Kon Tiki expeditions across the Pacific Ocean to Peru. While orthodox anthropologists embraced the results of the earliest DNA findings, the later results caused consternation and controversy.

They not only showed that the Americas were settled by many different racial groups coming from many different parts of Asia, the genetic findings also demonstrated that the migration events
took place much earlier than previously thought.

Anthropologists, archaeologists and historians had postulated that the migrations
had taken place less than 20,000 years ago.

DNA analysis placed the initial wave of migration at between 38-50,000 years before present.
This finding too raised eyebrows in the orthodox community.

However, in recent years radiocarbon dated materials from South America, California
and the Southwestern United States has come to light and the dates agree with the conclusions of the DNA research.

Clearly, the genetic investigations had produced a mixed bag of outcomes for orthodox anthropologists and historians.   In general, their long held theories about a north Asian origin for Native American populations were proven correct.

Nevertheless, their narrow focus on Siberia, the single land-bridge migration route and their chronology had been in error. Some of the Asian immigrants did come from Siberia along that route but other groups came from Japan, Polynesia, etc., in boats and their journeys began in remote antiquity.

Genetic researchers determined that 96% of Native Americans fell into one of the four A-D haplogroups and while these mtDNA types were also found in Asia they are not present in Europe or Africa.

This too indicates that Asia was the ancestral region of most Native American tribes. Then in 1997 another lineage was discovered, which geneticists dubbed X.  This discovery ignited a storm of controversy that has not died down to this day.

The X haplogroup needs careful,thoughtful, and deep historical analysis  because this group may well hold one of the most important keys to unlocking the secrets of our collective past. Obviously about 4 percent of Native Americans, from Alaska to the tip of South America, do not fall into one of the four major haplogroups.

Scientists assumed that these minority lineages came from interactions with European and African groups since the time of Columbus. This proved to be true for about 1.5% of Native Americans
however 2.5% were found to belong to the X lineage. Once this small mtDNA group was identified as a distinct genetic type, the race was on to ascertain their place of origin.

This is where the mystery really gets complicated and interesting.

In spite of the fact that the previous genetic data was forcing the orthodoxy to make some alterations
in their migration scheme and chronology, as we saw their basic paradigm had been confirmed.

But the discovery of the X haplogroup changed that situation dramatically.

It was known to exist in Europe in about 5% of the population and unknown in Asia and Africa at the time. The X lineage was ascertained to have arrived in the Americas from about 38,000 to 10,000 years ago.  What could this mean?

At first anthropologists argued that since Europeans had not traveled across the Atlantic
at such a remote point in time the X group had to be the outcome of post Columbus contact and intermarriage.  However when researchers analyzed ancient DNA samples, found in the Great Lakes (Mound Builder) region,  which dated back long before Columbus they identified some of the samples as belonging to the X group.

This proved they were not the outcome of any post-Columbus contact and were not of recent origin.
When investigators compiled the genetic data on the distribution of the X haplogroup in the America's what they discovered sent shock waves through the conventional and alternative history camps.

The X lineage was only found in a handful of tribes scattered across the country, the Yakima and Sioux  in the northwest and the Navajo in the southwest, in about 5% of their populations.

However, the greatest concentrations by far occurred in the Ojibway, Oneota and Nuu-Chah-Nulth tribes where almost 25% of the tribal members fell into the X lineage.  Moreover, the vast majority of tribes contained no X members.

In fact, it was not found in any native tribes in Central or South America.
Again, what did these patterns mean? Independent researchers associated with the Edgar Cayce Association (A.R.E.)  quickly pointed out that the data supported some of the material found in the Atlantis readings that the 'sleeping prophet' had given in the 1930s.

Cayce noted that some Atlantis refugees had immigrated to the northeastern region of the United States  and later formed the Iroquois nation.  It was in those tribes that the highest concentration of the X haplogroup was found.

The Cayce readings also claimed that some of these refugees went to the American southwest
and others migrated to the Mound Builder region and formed that civilization.   Odd that his psychic information would so closely parallel the distribution pattern of the X lineage.

Cayce had also given the dates that these migrations had occurred and they too agreed with the DNA findings.  The plot was surely thickening in a most fascinating way.  If the story stopped here it would be enough to hold interest and provoke thought however it goes farther, much farther.

The apparent widespread presence of the X lineage across what is now known as the United States
appears to show a wide initial dispersal. One could postulate a west-east migration of this haplogroup from Siberian Asia.

But that scenario poses two serious obstacles:
1) the greatest concentration of this group is found in the northeastern region of the United States and
2) X is virtually absent in Asia.

Like a good detective novel, all of the clues had not been uncovered in the late 1990s when the X group had been identified and was being hotly debated.   Geneticists pressed forward and launched a probe into the Altai tribe located in the Gobi desert and found the X lineage in small numbers.

This is the only population in Asia that exhibits this haplogroup and as such they comprise a tiny, isolated genetic island.  Orthodox anthropologists were elated when the news reached their ears.

They seized on this finding as smoking gun proof that the X group in North America
had its ancestral roots in Siberian Asia, end of story.

To say that this was an unscientific rush to a final conclusion that just happened to agree
with their long held beliefs is an understatement.  Let us pause and use logic and commonsense and try to walk through what we are being asked to accept. 

The Gobi Desert is about 8,000 miles from the northeastern section of the United States.
We are being told that this tribe trekked that distance and transferred their genes from their ancestral homeland to the Great Lakes without depositing the X group genes in any other part of Asia, Alaska, Canada, and the region between Washington and the Northeast America.

Everyone agrees that any such migration would have taken place during the harshest of conditions
since the Ice Age still held this entire region in its frigid grip.

Furthermore, we are being asked to suspend our disbelief raised by the notion that a tiny tribe trekked
these vast distances across a frozen landscape for unknown reasons. Why would any small tribe risk everything and wander half way around the globe during an ice age when they did not know what lay beyond the next horizon?

In fact, anthropologists and historians know that this is not the way human tribes have operated since the dawn of time.  On February 16, 1932 Cayce related some information during a reading that is extraordinarily cogent to this unfolding genetic mystery story.

When asked about the position of the continent of Atlantis he replied:

"The position the continent Atlantis occupied, is that as between the Gulf of Mexico on the one hand- and the Mediterranean upon the other. Evidences of this lost civilization are to be found in the Pyrenees and Morocco on the one hand, British Honduras, Yucatan and America upon the other."

Now, we must pick up the trail of clues on the other side of the Atlantic. Let us keep in mind that when Cayce gave this reading DNA had not yet been discovered and there was no such thing as mtDNA analysis.

Nevertheless, he mentioned "evidences" in two specific locales, the Pyrenees,
a mountain range sandwiched in between France and Spain where the Basques live,
and Morocco where another ancient group, the Berbers resides.

Astonishingly, these two populations contain the highest frequencies of the X lineage found in Europe and North Africa.

The Basques have long puzzled anthropologists, linguists and historians because,
although they are Caucasian they do not fit in with the rest of the European populations.
Their language is not related to any other tongue in the world. 

Prior to the advent of genetic research tools investigators used the ABO blood groups
to study the relationships between human populations as well as their migration patterns.
The Basques turned out to be unique in terms of blood types as well.  As a population they contain the highest levels of Rh- 'O' negative blood in the world and among the lowest type B.

Now, what Cayce was suggesting is that some of the people that fled the sinking continent
went west and settled and became the Iroquois.  Others went east to the Iberian Peninsula then the Pyrenees (Basques), and the West Coast of North Africa  then the Atlas Mountains (Berbers).
Turning to the Berbers we find yet another group that contains the highest frequency of haplogroup X in the world.

Is it a coincidence that these disparate peoples share a very rare mtDNA lineage?
It is unfortunate that the Berbers have never received much attention
from science over the years.

Here we have a Caucasian race living in North Africa of all places.

Anthropologists dismissed them because they did not fit well into the 'Out of Africa' scenario
and it was assumed that they had back immigrated southward from somewhere in Europe. However, that theory has been abandoned and scientists now accept the fact that they are an indigenous people,
which they believe go back to the Stone Age. 

But how can this be we must ask since the rest of the continent below the Sahara is black African?

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Anonymous said...

Something I've been curious about for awhile, and this article touches upon it:

Why are some very intelligent people, who have been trained in the scientific method, presumably researchers who are interested in discovery, so resistant (to the point of sheer blindness or utter argumentativeness) to considering new information that sheds light on what they are most passionately interested in (I assume this because they have degrees in it, or are experts in that field, or whatever) -- even if, or especially if, it leads them to reconsider previous assumptions -- BUT leads to the truth?

Are they not interested in discovering the truth? What the heck?

What is so hard about admitting, "we believed "x" for many years because of the investigative methods at our disposal; however, we now have this new technology which is showing that our previous theories are incorrect, and that "y" may actually be the case. This is not something we ever considered before, because it sounded too far-fetched. But the evidence is unmistakable and points us in this new direction. How fascinating is this! Let's now rethink everything! I'm so happy that some of these great mysteries may finally be solved, in my lifetime..."

So, I'm just interested in what are the reasons for this stubbornness and resistance to rethinking (and maybe it is different reasons for different people). I presume some of them can't possibly escape realizing that new info turns their previously held theories upside down, but perhaps they are "in on the plan" of deception of the people? Or perhaps they have too much (financial or ego) stake in remaining experts in their field? Do they realize it privately but not admit it publicly? Or is some part of their mind preventing them from seeing the truth?

And I presume some folks really are somehow too blind to see the truth even when staring them in the face.

Could this be the "waking up" phenomenon? As in, we have been blind or asleep for so long, but we were deliberately deceived. And the truth of the deception is so horrible it chills us to the bone, so we have some kind of psychological resistance to staring THAT truth in the face? It is more comfortable to remain asleep?

What is so hard for me to understand is why people who are scientists, researchers, experts would not want to know the truth. I was taught the scientific method and logic. I assumed this is what professional scientists would use. For me, pursuit and discovery of truth is the most driving force. If it turns my world upside down, changes my fundamental beliefs, then so be it. I do not have to be "right." I just want to know what the truth is. It doesn't scare me to discover I've been wrong all this time.

While this phenomenon, in the context of this human migration topic, is very interesting, this is also exactly the same thing going on with respect to the topic of human-caused climate change. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why so many highly intelligent people continue to believe the increasingly obvious deception. I can understand why the powers that be promote it, but why do so many otherwise astute people collude in it? What are they afraid of, or what is preventing them from seeing it, or are they in on the deception?

Anonymous said...

Vatic Master: Joseph Smith was way ahead of his time. He also started his own White Adamic Masonry to oppose Judeo Masonry and was killed for doing it by the Judeo Masons. The LDS of Salt Lake are under total control of Judeo Masonry today. Alot of original doctrines are no longer allowed--like the Doctrine of Whiteness and Darkness--caused DNA changes...Sin or Righteousness.Also please read AGENT BURIED ALIVE by James Casbolt--he had Celtic Genes....and read also DUNCAN OFINIOAN: Interview Transcript on Camolot Project ULTIMATE WARRIOR: Robert Duncan OFINIOAN Read how he had Celtic and Indian Blood Mix that gave him alot of psychic power..Alot of people taken by UFOs had the celtic indiuan blood mix..this is in a book called Pandporas Box...Anyway Vatic Master: Great article and write up about this..

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute !!! Heyerdal crossed the Pacific in Kon Tiki from east to west (South America to Polynesia.) The raft (Kon Tiki)was made of South American balsa. Thus, Thor postulated that Polinesia (and other south Pacific islands) may have been settled by South American peoples and proved the possibility by the Kon Tiki expedition. I read the book 40 years ago, but still remember the basic premise. ...Hard to continue reading this article after that error ...how many other errors (which I won´t be able to discern)are there !

Vatic Master said...

Your version of the event is an old one and this provided above is the new one based on new science technology in the field. I am sorry if the truth upsets your apple cart, but we cannot go by that, we must go by what has been documented and if you read the whole article you would know what that is.

NOW, IF YOU HAVE PROOF THEY ARE WRONG IN THE SCIENCE, THEN PROVIDE THE LINKS AND i PROMISE I WILL PUBLISH THEM WITH MY OPINION AND LET THE READERS DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES. Our objective is "TRUTH" and nothing more or nothing less. So we welcome anyone who disagrees as long as the back up their contention with links for us to use to verify, and you are welcome to do the same with the information we provided. I can assure you I have verified the new technology used in the genetics and the Mitachondria HaplosDNA use for the work

You are welcome to do as I did and google it and read all that is written.

anam-Orphicanomaly said...

I've never posted to this blog before and I am new to all this information but I have become very fascinated with it. I am Rh negative blood, O- to be exact. I am also Lakota Sioux Native American Indian. Ive recently been looking into the phenomenon around this blood type as unexplainable events and sightings have been happening around me lately. I have been researching trying to find out what it is that is making me see the particles that I am seeing feeling the way that I have been and the effect I have on objects. I am interested in more documentation or research articles in which I can study the nature of this blood type and everything that surrounds it. I have however been studying all that surrounds the end of days and what is in our near terrifying future trying to see what part I play in The craziness That will soon unfold. Any advice or references to available material I may attain would be greatly appreciated by anyone. Thanks

Robert Longley said...

this corresponds with many native accounts, and even Christopher Columbus spoke of blonde blue eyed groups. I think this is just one more possible clue to link to Atlantis.

Anonymous said...

I´m certainly not afraid of the truth. I´m not saying Heyerdahl is correct. He only said and proved it was possible for the Pacific Islands to have been settled from east to west as proven by his Kon Tiki Expedition (and South American genetics have been found in the indigenous peoples of Easter Island.)

Also, Thor´s RA Expedition proved it was possible to sail to South America from Egypt in an ancient style reed raft and that there may be Egyption/African influence in the Anerica´s (e.g., the Inca/Aztec/Mayan pyramids.)

I believe that both of Thor´s theories are possible as well as the theory that settlement of the Americas from the eastern Pacific peoples, etc. are possible (all of the above!) It´s called being open minded.

The article you posted cites the Kon Tiki Expedition as supporting a west to east settling of the Americas ...which it absolutely does not !!!

Thus, with such a glaring error early in the article, my sense of searching for the truth made me leave the page. The accuracy of the information had proven untrustworthy early on.

So please don´t tell me the info I provided was an "old version of the event" (which it is not as Thor never changed or reneged on his Kon Tiki or Ra Expeditions theories)or that the "truth upsets" my "applecart." My very quest for truth prevented me from continuing the article due to the obvious and large error which would cast doubt on the accuracy/"truth" of the rest of the article.

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-tiki):

"Kon-Tiki was the raft used by Norwegian explorer and writer Thor Heyerdahl in his 1947 expedition across the Pacific Ocean from South America to the Polynesian islands. It was named after the Inca sun god, Viracocha, for whom "Kon-Tiki" was said to be an old name."

"Heyerdahl believed that people from South America could have settled Polynesia in pre-Columbian times. Although most anthropologists as of 2010 had come to the conclusion they did not,[1][2][3] in 2011, new genetic evidence was uncovered by Erik Thors by that Easter Island inhabitants in fact do have some South American DNA,[4] lending credence to at least some of Heyerdahl's theses. His aim in mounting the Kon-Tiki expedition was to show, by using only the materials and technologies available to those people at the time, that there were no technical reasons to prevent them from having done so."

The Wiki article is complete with 31 references.


I am a 62 year old man with over 37 years of professional experience and education in the sciences (M.S. in Life Sciences.) As such my "objective is "TRUTH" and nothing more or nothing less." And, it always has been.

I read many of your articles/posts in search of truth. I do appreciate your work and I respect your knowledge and what you are able to do. Please don´t fault me for pointing out a falsehood in an article you posted ...maybe you should question the author !