Vatic Note: They turned themselves in and disassociated themselves from the militia that were supporting them. No wonder we are in trouble. Here, these people won't even stand for themselves. If we are willing to give up our rights that easily, then we are not the offspring of our founding fathers and thus will be pushed off the land and disappear leaving the nation to the one percenters and their slaves who will have been genetically altered and brainwashed to accept a life of slavery.
The good news is, Americans are waking up all over the country. I see it here in my home town. I overhear conversations about what is going on, and I Had never heard such conversations in the past. To me that is the most encouraging sign and is probably why we continue to have record breaking gun sales. Anyway, you read and decide.
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SHERIFF: THE HAMMONDS HAVE TURNED THEMSELVES IN
Bundy told CNN in a phone interview on Sunday that some of the occupiers were armed, Reuters reported.
"We have no intention of using force or being aggressive or going on the offence, but just as all people have the right to defend themselves, that's exactly what that meant — means."
The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time — the father three months, the son one year. But a federal judge ruled in October that their terms were too short under U.S. minimum sentencing law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.
The decision generated controversy and is part of a decades-long
dispute between some Westerners and the federal government over the use
of public lands. The issue traces back to the 1970s and the Sagebrush
Rebellion, a move by Western states like Nevada to increase local
control over federal land.
Critics of the push for more local control have said the federal government should administer the public lands for the widest possible uses, including environmental and recreation.
In an interview with The Associated Press at the wildlife refuge Sunday, Ryan Bundy, Ammon Bundy's brother, said the protesters' ultimate goal is to turn the land over to local authorities so people can use it free of federal oversight.
They want to "restore the rights to people so they can use the land and resources" for ranching, logging, mining and recreation.
Ryan Bundy says the federal government has been "tromping on people's rights and privileges and properties and livelihoods."
"I understand the land needs to be used wisely, but that's what we as stewards need to do. A rancher is going to take care of his own ranch," Ryan Bundy said.
On Sunday, supplies were seen being delivered to the refuge area, which is remote even by rural Oregon standards.
Hammond and his son, convicted in 2012 of setting fires that spread to public land, travelled to Los Angeles on Sunday evening to turn themselves in to federal authorities, according to their lawyer W. Alan Schroeder.
"These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives to attempt to over throw the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States," Ward said in a statement on Sunday afternoon. (VN: well that is one sold out Sheriff no one will be able to count on in a crisis.)
The sheriff says he is working with local and federal authorities to
keep the citizens in his county safe and to resolve the situation as
quickly and peacefully as possible.
He is asking people to stay away from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for their own safety. He said he does not think any other parts of the county are in immediate danger.
Beth Anne Steele, an FBI spokeswoman in Portland, said Saturday that the agency was aware of the situation at the national wildlife refuge. She made no further comment.
U.S. Senator Ron Wyden, who had been briefed by the FBI agent in charge in Portland, Ore., said most local residents do not support the protesters.
"The overwhelming majority of people there very much want to get on with their lives without this disruption and are not in sympathy with a bunch of outsiders," Wyden said. (VN: now we know why the 1 percenters believe they can take over this nation without a shot being fired. Its citizens like that who give up their freedoms, and rights without any thought of what that will mean. They will find out soon enough, I am afraid, unless the rest of us with some brains and sense can stop it before then.)
Local residents have expressed fear of potential of violence. A peaceful rally Saturday in support of the Hammonds featured speeches, flags and marching.
As marchers reached the courthouse, they tossed hundreds of pennies at the locked door. Their message: Civilians were buying back their government. After the march passed, two girls swooped in to scavenge the pennies.
A few blocks away, Hammond and his wife, Susan, greeted marchers, who planted flower bouquets in the snow. They sang some songs, Hammond said a few words, and the protesters marched back to their cars.
With files from Reuters
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The good news is, Americans are waking up all over the country. I see it here in my home town. I overhear conversations about what is going on, and I Had never heard such conversations in the past. To me that is the most encouraging sign and is probably why we continue to have record breaking gun sales. Anyway, you read and decide.
FUND RAISING STATUS: This is the date we start our fund raising due by the first of the month. Our deficit is $350 and we ask that you donate to help keep us up on the net to do the exposing that is so desperately needed. Thank you for all your support. You can donate off to the right at the Pay pal button. God bless you and your family and have a happy, prosperous and safe New Year.
SHERIFF: THE HAMMONDS HAVE TURNED THEMSELVES IN
Ranchers Dwight and Steven Hammond to turn themselves in to federal authorities, their lawyer says
Protesters occupy Oregon federal building
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Ammon Bundy, the son of Nevada rancher Cliven
Bundy, is one of a group of people occupying the headquarters of the
Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. (Les Zaitz/The Oregonian/Associated
Press)
"We have no intention of using force or being aggressive or going on the offence, but just as all people have the right to defend themselves, that's exactly what that meant — means."
Want land turned over to local authorities
Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires on federal land in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires.The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time — the father three months, the son one year. But a federal judge ruled in October that their terms were too short under U.S. minimum sentencing law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.
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Critics of the push for more local control have said the federal government should administer the public lands for the widest possible uses, including environmental and recreation.
In an interview with The Associated Press at the wildlife refuge Sunday, Ryan Bundy, Ammon Bundy's brother, said the protesters' ultimate goal is to turn the land over to local authorities so people can use it free of federal oversight.
They want to "restore the rights to people so they can use the land and resources" for ranching, logging, mining and recreation.
Ryan Bundy says the federal government has been "tromping on people's rights and privileges and properties and livelihoods."
"I understand the land needs to be used wisely, but that's what we as stewards need to do. A rancher is going to take care of his own ranch," Ryan Bundy said.
On Sunday, supplies were seen being delivered to the refuge area, which is remote even by rural Oregon standards.
Hammond and his son, convicted in 2012 of setting fires that spread to public land, travelled to Los Angeles on Sunday evening to turn themselves in to federal authorities, according to their lawyer W. Alan Schroeder.
Some locals fear potential of violence
Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward said the group of armed protesters came to town under false pretenses."These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives to attempt to over throw the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States," Ward said in a statement on Sunday afternoon. (VN: well that is one sold out Sheriff no one will be able to count on in a crisis.)
Protesters march in support of Oregon
ranchers facing prison time for arson in Burns, Ore., on Jan. 2. (Les
Zaitz/The Oregonian/Associated Press)
He is asking people to stay away from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for their own safety. He said he does not think any other parts of the county are in immediate danger.
Beth Anne Steele, an FBI spokeswoman in Portland, said Saturday that the agency was aware of the situation at the national wildlife refuge. She made no further comment.
U.S. Senator Ron Wyden, who had been briefed by the FBI agent in charge in Portland, Ore., said most local residents do not support the protesters.
"The overwhelming majority of people there very much want to get on with their lives without this disruption and are not in sympathy with a bunch of outsiders," Wyden said. (VN: now we know why the 1 percenters believe they can take over this nation without a shot being fired. Its citizens like that who give up their freedoms, and rights without any thought of what that will mean. They will find out soon enough, I am afraid, unless the rest of us with some brains and sense can stop it before then.)
Local residents have expressed fear of potential of violence. A peaceful rally Saturday in support of the Hammonds featured speeches, flags and marching.
As marchers reached the courthouse, they tossed hundreds of pennies at the locked door. Their message: Civilians were buying back their government. After the march passed, two girls swooped in to scavenge the pennies.
A few blocks away, Hammond and his wife, Susan, greeted marchers, who planted flower bouquets in the snow. They sang some songs, Hammond said a few words, and the protesters marched back to their cars.
The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
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