UPDATE #2: 12:14 mtn time, 5/26/10 - see video with all the updates on mobilization countrywide. Its almost everywhere. He scrolls down on his video as he is talking so watch it and read and pause as you do when he goes too fast. Its excellent intel he is giving up from many different sources including those in the guard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBSwCdfDoVQ This is an invasion under the bogus "CARING" about our citizens when they have proven they think we are cattle and have ignored every single thing we have shown we care about. Lock and load. Remember when I posted about Obama and the drones they were assigning over Texas??? Now does it make sense??? I highly recommend that series of preparations I discussed yesterday about all of this.
UPDATE: 9:43 am, 5/26/10 Its raining oil in Tampa Florida per intel by a tampa resident experiencing it as she was driving.
See email below this story. Looks like Vatic was right to post the tampa FEMA evac plans. Means they knew in advance what would happen. You do not mobilize troop movements that big in just a few days, this has been on the books for a while and remember all those city war games over the past few years in Georgia, getting us used to military on our streets, and Oregon along a coast line? I still say this was all planned. It was the only way they were ever going to keep the south under conrol and GET THEIR GUNS, This is a call for confirmation by anyone else living in the tampa area. Nasty bunch of HIGH TREASONOUS leaders we have, eh, add the quadrupling of our gas tax (SLAVERY/CATTLE) and no recovery costs taken from BP (FACISM) with Obama saying they did all they could while we have proof by correspondance that wasn't true, see Whitley letter and BP's response and see article below this blog showing OBAMA SAID MONDAY BP WAS DOING A GOOD JOB AND THE FED GOV HAD NO INTENTIONS OF INTERFERING with the clean up. Now we need creative thinking to get around that gas tax and how we as citizens can fix the mess and toxins they are using to clean up the oil that is killing everything in site. This is a crime against the globe and not just humanity. .
Vatic Note: I saw a letter from BP to an inventors rep which rejected the invention that would have stopped the oil leak in 8 hours. Now that is the "claim" and I am no expert on oil anything except how to pour it into my car and even that can be a real task for me. However, given they did not even attempt to stop the flow for a full month after the blow out, and given that the company owners shorted the stock before the accident, then it is hard not to assume an agenda here. I have heard that we are caught in a big war right now between Rothschild and Rockefeller, and I also heard it was to let Obama off the hook for his signing the EO banning all offshore commercial fishing which would have turned a whole industry against him and the dems, so who knows, but the fact that these have all happened is not coincidence. We will do as we have done since the first bailout and before, and that is wait and see. Its all we can do unless we decide to get real pushy about them making moves. We did, however, get a quadrupling of our gas tax to pay for this when BP is making billions and is continuing to drill in our off shore waters and people want to try and convince me Obama is just naive??? ROTFLMAO. The answer to their solutions is to kick every single one of the out of office and I guarantee you the next batch coming in will remember how they got there and they know we can and will do it again. In the meantime.... prepare, prepare, prepare. Its time.
Inventors say BP ignoring their oil spill ideas
‘This is not just a PR stunt,’ oil company spokesman insists
By Michael Kunzelman and Mike Baker, MSNBC.com
The Associated Press
updated 4:21 p.m. MT, Wed., May 19, 2010
NEW ORLEANS - A suggestion box or publicity stunt? BP has received thousands of ideas from the public on how to stop the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, but some inventors are complaining that their efforts are getting ignored.
Oil-eating bacteria, bombs and a device that resembles a giant shower curtain are among the 10,000 fixes people have proposed to counter the growing environmental threat. BP is taking a closer look at 700 of the ideas, but the oil company has yet to use any of them nearly a month after the deadly explosion that caused the leak.
"They're clearly out of ideas, and there's a whole world of people willing to do this free of charge," said Dwayne Spradlin, CEO of InnoCentive Inc., which has created an online network of experts to solve problems.
BP spokesman Mark Salt said the company wants the public's help, but that considering proposed fixes takes time.
"They're taking bits of ideas from lots of places," Salt said. "This is not just a PR stunt."
BP said Wednesday it hopes to begin shooting a mixture known as drilling mud into the blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico by Sunday. The "top kill" method involves shooting heavy mud into crippled equipment on top of the well, then aiming cement at the well to permanently keep down the oil. Even if it works it could take several weeks to complete.
"This is all being done at a depth of 5,000 feet and it's never been done at these depths before," said Doug Suttles of BP PLC, which leased the rig that exploded April 20 off the coast of Louisiana.
If the top kill effort fails, BP is considering a "junk shot," which involves shooting knotted rope, pieces of tires and golf balls into the blowout preventer. Crews hope they will lodge into the nooks and crannies of the device to plug it.
About 70 BP workers are taking more suggestions at a tip line center in Houston. The company plans to test one idea from actor Kevin Costner — a centrifuge device to vacuum up the oil — but that was not delivered through the suggestion-box system.
BP succeeded in partially siphoning away the leak over the weekend, when it hooked up a mile-(1.6-kilometer)long tube to the broken pipe, sending some of the oil to a ship on the surface.
Gerald Graham, a marine environmental consultant and oil spill response expert from Victoria, British Columbia, said he suggested a similar idea at the end of April to the joint incident command center run by BP, government agencies and Transocean Ltd., which owned the rig. The command center had him forward the idea to NOAA, which didn't respond.
"Why didn't they do this sooner?" Graham said. "Why did they wait so long?"
In the weeks before BP hooked up the tube, it tried but failed to use a four-story concrete-and-metal box to funnel the oil into a pipe and to the surface.
Salt said ideas for stopping the leak "have to be taken through loads of different stages" before BP can try to use them.
"We're dealing with things at a depth that has never been done before. They have to go through lots of vigorous tests," he said.
Spradlin, the InnoCentive CEO, denounced BP's call for help as a "publicity maneuver." His Massachusetts-based company challenged its Web-connected network of scientists, engineers, academics and other professionals to come up with possible solutions to stop the spill. Hundreds of ideas have poured in, but the company says BP has not responded.
Ideas submitted through InnoCentive include spreading oil-eating bacteria and dropping bombs to implode the leaking well.
Even the director of EPA's Gulf of Mexico Program Office is waiting to see if his idea will get used. Bryon O. Griffith worked in his spare time to develop an umbrella-style plug that could be deployed inside the damaged pipe, an idea that has been placed on a short list for consideration.
BP has fielded some 60,000 calls from the public that led to 10,000 tips. About 2,500 people sent in forms spelling out their ideas in greater detail, and BP advanced 700 to the next phase.
"And then we ask, is this something new?" BP spokesman David Nicholas said. "Can we incorporate it into our stuff, or is there an overlap? There hasn't been one that's come from that system that's come all the way."
Costner, the "Waterworld" and "Field of Dreams" actor, has invested more than $24 million in developing the centrifuge invention, along with business partner John Houghtaling II of New Orleans.
On Tuesday, Houghtaling said BP has agreed to test the devices, which can be dropped into the oil spill and separate water from oil, storing the petroleum in tanks. The smallest weighs 150 pounds (68 kilograms); the largest 4,500 pounds (2,040 kilograms).
"It's like a big vacuum cleaner," Houghtaling said. "These machines are ready to be employed. The technology is familiar to the industry."
It's not just BP that's been receiving ideas.
"You name it, it's been suggested. At least 15 times a day we get something about exploding the well — bombs, nuclear bombs, torpedoes," said Coast Guard Senior Chief Steve Carleton. He said he receives about a dozen emails a day with a link to a YouTube video of a man using hay to sop up oil.
"There's so many ideas you become numb to them."
Mark Badger, a businessman from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, proposed a series of wide fabric tubes that would connect and stretch to the sea floor. That contraption would contain the oil and allow workers to skim it.
"Think of a giant shower curtain at 5,000 feet that goes to the bottom of the ocean," Badger said.
Badger said the proposal hasn't received much response from BP despite a series of attempts to discuss it with company officials.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Vatic Note: Here is the email sent to a regular of our blog by a Tampa Bay Resident. IF THIS IS CONFIRMED.... its time for Gun owners to get on the move and for others to come to their aid. . DO NOT GO INTO THEIR CAMPS and do not let your relatives go there either. Find help in other states, we will open our homes to you to aid you and prevent you from going into the camps if that call comes out. Take your weapons with you and ammo.
http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php?q=1274767889
Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car. Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!
I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!
Anyone on Gulf try not to smear touch it as it is harder to wash off if it happens to you. Bands of storm clouds coming this way from Gulf of Mexico...has not actually rained at least where I have been, just ran through the sprinkle. I smell it now I am inside the house...it's just hard for me to believe also. One can think of a other things...oh maybe it was a vehicle in front of you...there were no vehicles near me at the time. So coincidence oil spill in the gulf and it rains oil on my car? okay believe what you will...but I know my gut and what happened to me, what I saw, others witnessed, I took pics of (sorry don't know how to post them, and it photos could be debatable anyway, take my word or not whichever...but we are in deep hocky doo folks.
I was noticing that big black blotch closer to west coast FL on some images that someone posted yesterday on Disasters board...wondering. Well, maybe wrong board but felt more may see it here and ones that live here. Be careful, if it gets on your clothes, pets, hair, eyes, skin...it won't be so easy to wash off as a well waxed car is.
Not checking this for now, gotta wash out my ears, eyes, nose and lay down...change clothes as I smell it now inside the house on my clothes. I did not smell it while out though and my nose is now desensitizing, but I feel nauseated. I am really sensitive though, some may not be so much or get the heavy warnings I do.
Thanks for letting me post this bopp, if you want to move it, okay with me I understand...maybe nobody pay attention anyway and I am not super pops here as it is!
~Eve
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UPDATE: 9:43 am, 5/26/10 Its raining oil in Tampa Florida per intel by a tampa resident experiencing it as she was driving.
See email below this story. Looks like Vatic was right to post the tampa FEMA evac plans. Means they knew in advance what would happen. You do not mobilize troop movements that big in just a few days, this has been on the books for a while and remember all those city war games over the past few years in Georgia, getting us used to military on our streets, and Oregon along a coast line? I still say this was all planned. It was the only way they were ever going to keep the south under conrol and GET THEIR GUNS, This is a call for confirmation by anyone else living in the tampa area. Nasty bunch of HIGH TREASONOUS leaders we have, eh, add the quadrupling of our gas tax (SLAVERY/CATTLE) and no recovery costs taken from BP (FACISM) with Obama saying they did all they could while we have proof by correspondance that wasn't true, see Whitley letter and BP's response and see article below this blog showing OBAMA SAID MONDAY BP WAS DOING A GOOD JOB AND THE FED GOV HAD NO INTENTIONS OF INTERFERING with the clean up. Now we need creative thinking to get around that gas tax and how we as citizens can fix the mess and toxins they are using to clean up the oil that is killing everything in site. This is a crime against the globe and not just humanity. .
Vatic Note: I saw a letter from BP to an inventors rep which rejected the invention that would have stopped the oil leak in 8 hours. Now that is the "claim" and I am no expert on oil anything except how to pour it into my car and even that can be a real task for me. However, given they did not even attempt to stop the flow for a full month after the blow out, and given that the company owners shorted the stock before the accident, then it is hard not to assume an agenda here. I have heard that we are caught in a big war right now between Rothschild and Rockefeller, and I also heard it was to let Obama off the hook for his signing the EO banning all offshore commercial fishing which would have turned a whole industry against him and the dems, so who knows, but the fact that these have all happened is not coincidence. We will do as we have done since the first bailout and before, and that is wait and see. Its all we can do unless we decide to get real pushy about them making moves. We did, however, get a quadrupling of our gas tax to pay for this when BP is making billions and is continuing to drill in our off shore waters and people want to try and convince me Obama is just naive??? ROTFLMAO. The answer to their solutions is to kick every single one of the out of office and I guarantee you the next batch coming in will remember how they got there and they know we can and will do it again. In the meantime.... prepare, prepare, prepare. Its time.
Inventors say BP ignoring their oil spill ideas
‘This is not just a PR stunt,’ oil company spokesman insists
By Michael Kunzelman and Mike Baker, MSNBC.com
The Associated Press
updated 4:21 p.m. MT, Wed., May 19, 2010
NEW ORLEANS - A suggestion box or publicity stunt? BP has received thousands of ideas from the public on how to stop the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, but some inventors are complaining that their efforts are getting ignored.
Oil-eating bacteria, bombs and a device that resembles a giant shower curtain are among the 10,000 fixes people have proposed to counter the growing environmental threat. BP is taking a closer look at 700 of the ideas, but the oil company has yet to use any of them nearly a month after the deadly explosion that caused the leak.
"They're clearly out of ideas, and there's a whole world of people willing to do this free of charge," said Dwayne Spradlin, CEO of InnoCentive Inc., which has created an online network of experts to solve problems.
BP spokesman Mark Salt said the company wants the public's help, but that considering proposed fixes takes time.
"They're taking bits of ideas from lots of places," Salt said. "This is not just a PR stunt."
BP said Wednesday it hopes to begin shooting a mixture known as drilling mud into the blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico by Sunday. The "top kill" method involves shooting heavy mud into crippled equipment on top of the well, then aiming cement at the well to permanently keep down the oil. Even if it works it could take several weeks to complete.
"This is all being done at a depth of 5,000 feet and it's never been done at these depths before," said Doug Suttles of BP PLC, which leased the rig that exploded April 20 off the coast of Louisiana.
If the top kill effort fails, BP is considering a "junk shot," which involves shooting knotted rope, pieces of tires and golf balls into the blowout preventer. Crews hope they will lodge into the nooks and crannies of the device to plug it.
About 70 BP workers are taking more suggestions at a tip line center in Houston. The company plans to test one idea from actor Kevin Costner — a centrifuge device to vacuum up the oil — but that was not delivered through the suggestion-box system.
BP succeeded in partially siphoning away the leak over the weekend, when it hooked up a mile-(1.6-kilometer)long tube to the broken pipe, sending some of the oil to a ship on the surface.
Gerald Graham, a marine environmental consultant and oil spill response expert from Victoria, British Columbia, said he suggested a similar idea at the end of April to the joint incident command center run by BP, government agencies and Transocean Ltd., which owned the rig. The command center had him forward the idea to NOAA, which didn't respond.
"Why didn't they do this sooner?" Graham said. "Why did they wait so long?"
In the weeks before BP hooked up the tube, it tried but failed to use a four-story concrete-and-metal box to funnel the oil into a pipe and to the surface.
Salt said ideas for stopping the leak "have to be taken through loads of different stages" before BP can try to use them.
"We're dealing with things at a depth that has never been done before. They have to go through lots of vigorous tests," he said.
Spradlin, the InnoCentive CEO, denounced BP's call for help as a "publicity maneuver." His Massachusetts-based company challenged its Web-connected network of scientists, engineers, academics and other professionals to come up with possible solutions to stop the spill. Hundreds of ideas have poured in, but the company says BP has not responded.
Ideas submitted through InnoCentive include spreading oil-eating bacteria and dropping bombs to implode the leaking well.
Even the director of EPA's Gulf of Mexico Program Office is waiting to see if his idea will get used. Bryon O. Griffith worked in his spare time to develop an umbrella-style plug that could be deployed inside the damaged pipe, an idea that has been placed on a short list for consideration.
BP has fielded some 60,000 calls from the public that led to 10,000 tips. About 2,500 people sent in forms spelling out their ideas in greater detail, and BP advanced 700 to the next phase.
"And then we ask, is this something new?" BP spokesman David Nicholas said. "Can we incorporate it into our stuff, or is there an overlap? There hasn't been one that's come from that system that's come all the way."
Costner, the "Waterworld" and "Field of Dreams" actor, has invested more than $24 million in developing the centrifuge invention, along with business partner John Houghtaling II of New Orleans.
On Tuesday, Houghtaling said BP has agreed to test the devices, which can be dropped into the oil spill and separate water from oil, storing the petroleum in tanks. The smallest weighs 150 pounds (68 kilograms); the largest 4,500 pounds (2,040 kilograms).
"It's like a big vacuum cleaner," Houghtaling said. "These machines are ready to be employed. The technology is familiar to the industry."
It's not just BP that's been receiving ideas.
"You name it, it's been suggested. At least 15 times a day we get something about exploding the well — bombs, nuclear bombs, torpedoes," said Coast Guard Senior Chief Steve Carleton. He said he receives about a dozen emails a day with a link to a YouTube video of a man using hay to sop up oil.
"There's so many ideas you become numb to them."
Mark Badger, a businessman from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, proposed a series of wide fabric tubes that would connect and stretch to the sea floor. That contraption would contain the oil and allow workers to skim it.
"Think of a giant shower curtain at 5,000 feet that goes to the bottom of the ocean," Badger said.
Badger said the proposal hasn't received much response from BP despite a series of attempts to discuss it with company officials.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37241470/ns/business-oil_and_energy/page/2/
MSN Privacy . Legal
© 2010 MSNBC.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vatic Note: Here is the email sent to a regular of our blog by a Tampa Bay Resident. IF THIS IS CONFIRMED.... its time for Gun owners to get on the move and for others to come to their aid. . DO NOT GO INTO THEIR CAMPS and do not let your relatives go there either. Find help in other states, we will open our homes to you to aid you and prevent you from going into the camps if that call comes out. Take your weapons with you and ammo.
http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php?q=1274767889
Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car. Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!
I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!
Anyone on Gulf try not to smear touch it as it is harder to wash off if it happens to you. Bands of storm clouds coming this way from Gulf of Mexico...has not actually rained at least where I have been, just ran through the sprinkle. I smell it now I am inside the house...it's just hard for me to believe also. One can think of a other things...oh maybe it was a vehicle in front of you...there were no vehicles near me at the time. So coincidence oil spill in the gulf and it rains oil on my car? okay believe what you will...but I know my gut and what happened to me, what I saw, others witnessed, I took pics of (sorry don't know how to post them, and it photos could be debatable anyway, take my word or not whichever...but we are in deep hocky doo folks.
I was noticing that big black blotch closer to west coast FL on some images that someone posted yesterday on Disasters board...wondering. Well, maybe wrong board but felt more may see it here and ones that live here. Be careful, if it gets on your clothes, pets, hair, eyes, skin...it won't be so easy to wash off as a well waxed car is.
Not checking this for now, gotta wash out my ears, eyes, nose and lay down...change clothes as I smell it now inside the house on my clothes. I did not smell it while out though and my nose is now desensitizing, but I feel nauseated. I am really sensitive though, some may not be so much or get the heavy warnings I do.
Thanks for letting me post this bopp, if you want to move it, okay with me I understand...maybe nobody pay attention anyway and I am not super pops here as it is!
~Eve
The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
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