Vatic Note: I guess the manipulators did not want this one out there, but there ya go.... found it and got it back up. They gutted my vatic note, so I will try to come back later and reconstruct it again. Please hang in there. These are treasonous acts by anyone who favors another nations interest and harm they do, over their own nations interests and the harm being done to the nation such as ours. Israel has become the most dangerous ally we have. Look at all the "AMERICANS" they have killed intentionally for political manipulation and gain and now these people who are Americans want to support that nation???
Amazing. If anyone else in any other country had killed thousands of Americans like the USS Liberty, 9-11, the USS Cole, we would have bombed them back to the stone age, but no, our treason runs deep inside our country and they have not only been given a free ride, but CHERTOFF GAVE ISRAEL IMMUNITY FOR ANYTHING SHE MIGHT HAVE DONE ON 9-11.... GO CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF. Its amazing to me that the khazar zionists who hate the Biblical Jews are getting the support from these so called Christians who are unknowingly supporting the Synogogue of Satan which is what the zionists are. They even have an official organization named "Synogogue of satan". AMAZING. Maybe the protocols, written by Rothschild, was right and goyim really are stupid.
Having said all that, has anyone noticed the attempt in desparation, to divide this nation between Muslims and Christians and now between various sects of Christian religions??? THEY ARE GETTING DESPERATE. Also notice on various blogs the complete attack against America, and rightly so, for her horrible treatment and murdering of other nations peoples, BUT NOT A WORD ABOUT ISRAEL AND GREAT BRITAINS ROLE IN ALL OF IT EITHER. I noticed that on various so called "Muslim sites", that are funded by MOssad and Israel. yes, its the LUNATIC INBRED PSYCHOS that are doing this globally. They even promised us a 'SAMPSON' option if we refuse to go along. THAT MEANS THEY ARE WILLING TO KILL THE ENTIRE PLANET THAN TO NOT HAVE THEIR AGENDA HAPPEN. NOW, who are the lunatics???? Right. (looks like I had no problem reconstructing my vatic note.... LOL Thats what happens when you get passionate about something and this one made my blood boil, as
I HATE TREASON worse than anything else in the world)
WELCOME TO THE LUNATIC ASYLUM!!!
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Sunday, April 8th, 2012 | Posted by Dr. Larry Davidson
Pastor Hagee’s Million Christians United For Israel
“…if you believe so strongly that you are willing to underwrite murder and mayhem, you constitute a real danger to world peace. As such you should be preaching your defense before the International Criminal Court rather than spurring on the multitude.”
Pastor John Hagee’s Christians United For Israel (CUFI) announced the “registration of their millionth member” on 18 March 2012.
 AGENTS OF INFLUENCE UNITED FOR ISRAEL
This organization, founded in 2006, with the goal of “realizing the political potential of tens of millions of evangelical Americans who support Israel” can also be said to have the goal of destroying, in the name of God no less, the legitimate political aspiration of Palestinian statehood.
And, the CUFI now has as much influence with our Republican Congress as does the Jewish Zionist lobby, AIPAC.
Why should the devout Mr. Hagee and his one million followers be so enamored of Israel? Actually, they have no rational reasons to offer. However, they do have a number of non-rational ones.
For example, “We support Israel because all other nations were created by an act of man, but Israel was created by an act of God.”
Hagee and his followers do not know that this is so. They just ardently believe it is so. Yet there is a difference between demonstrable fact and belief. As to subject, ardent belief, or what might be called faith, is widely variable and changes over time. Thus, for a considerably longer period of time than the life of Hagee’s particular brand of Christianity (in fact for thousands of years) vast numbers of people ardently believed in the reality of the Olympian Gods. For almost 1200 years, countless individuals, every bit as assured of their faith as Pastor Hagee, came to the shrine at Delphi to prey to Apollo and, through his oracle, the Sibyl, petition for the God’s advice and favor.
There is no more hard evidence for Hagee’s faith than for that of the Sibyl. Think of the lottery. Despite people’s belief in their “lucky numbers,” every number has an equal probability of turning up. In the same way, when John Hagee dies he has an equal chance of finding himself on the shore of the River Styx as he does at the gates of heaven or hell. Of course, this comparison is not completely accurate.
Here there is also the equal chance that no number turns up at all, and Mr Hagee simply dissolves into worm food.
Just so there is no hard evidence for the claim that Israel was created “by an act of God.” (As to modern Israel, there is no historical doubt that the deed was done by a combination of Jewish militias, the British Empire, and the General Assembly of the United Nations.) The Bible stories are just that, stories, and quoting them as if they constituted evidence beyond the realm of faith just won’t do.
No one credits the stories told in Hesiod’s Theogony (the story of the origin of the Olympian Gods) as proof positive of the existence of the Zeus and Apollo. Pastor Hagee would counter that the Theogony was “created by an act of man”while the Bible is, allegedly, the divinely inspired words of God. And, indeed, it appears that up to one-third of the adults in the United States agree with him. Unfortunately, it is quite possible that as many people now believe in the literal, divine truth of the Bible (and therefore the divine origin of Israel) as people once believed in the reality of Zeus and his Olympian clan.
However, it bears repeating that belief no matter how ardently held, does not make something true. And, it does not matter if it is the belief of one person or a million. The situation is the same. Faith is not the same as fact.
 Photo: The mayor of the West Bank settlement town of Ariel, Ron Nachman, gives a gift to Christian Zionist John Hagee and his wife Diana during the couple’s visit in 2008. Pastor Hagee’s movement has donated millions of dollars to the settlement and supports a "greater Israel" that includes Palestinian territory.
Unfortunately, this does not put an end to our subject. Faith may not move mountains but it can move the masses. It can move Hagee’s million and many others as well to actions that are very real indeed. It can move people to empty their wallets in an effort to financially support their alleged certainties. Worse yet, it can move them to take up arms and slaughter their neighbors–or at least cheer on others who do so.
I have a strong suspicion that if the Israelis some day evict every last Palestinian from Pastor Hagee’s “Holy Land,” killing thousands in the process, the pastor will shout “Hallelujah” and salivate in anticipation of the second coming of Christ. It is just a personal opinion, mind you, but if you believe so strongly that you are willing to underwrite murder and mayhem, you constitute a real danger to world peace. As such you should be preaching your defense before the International Criminal Court rather than spurring on the multitude.
Editing: Debbie Menon
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Part II of far-right Pastor John Hagee’s speech in Jerusalem denouncing the Goldstone Report and defending illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank. He is joined by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and top Israeli officials. Part I is here:youtube.com/watch?v=-y5BuyZMEIA
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8 comments:
Davidson, the author of that piece, is trying to counter Hagee's non sequitirs by committing non sequitirs of his own. Instead of attacking Hagee's faith, it would be wiser to show that there's no connection between Hagee's faith and the distortions that Hagee presents as facts.
Where are Hagee's facts to show that our Creator was behind the killing of countless civilians in such terrorist acts as the King David Hotel bombing? Where are Hagee's facts to support that a government built on a foundation of perfidy, fear, and murder was built by the Almighty?
Where are Hagee's facts to support a connection between the Lord's promise to Abraham and his descendants and the formation of a regime by people who were neither righteous before the Lord nor descended from Abraham?
Hagee is using an advertising gimmick called transference. He starts by generating well-deserved good feelings toward the holy men and women of the Bible; then he pulls a sleight of hand by transferring that feeling to the Israeli regime. This trick is thoroughly dishonest; and, since Hagee is using the Lord's Name for deceitful purposes, the trick is thoroughly evil.
Your are .perpetrating, the nonsense, brought about by the spiritual darkness, of the fear, of the illusion, of death...Satan..__>son..a...tie... bind...a ..new....now...through the ignorance, of truth, contained in the Light Ladder...you are perpetrating, ignorance, of myth, and those,,,whom you accuse, are laughing all the way, to the truth library...You are doing their job, for them...by perpetrating the lies, of Divine word, turned to lies, and nonsense......which has been ...re written...spelled differently...casting a net...with people like you in it...you are a good truth seeker, but in this spiritual situation...you are going against the truth...maintaining the conspiracy of the nonsense, and spiritual error, associated with the term..SATAN...SON. A TIE...A NEWNOW...IS PASSING THROUGH THE DOORWAY, OF THE ILLUSION, OF DEATH, SEPARATED, DIVIDED, FROM A COPY WORLD, OF YOUR HEART CONSCIOUSNESS, LIFTED TO ANOTHER, THROUGH THE ILLUSION, OF DEATH....SATAN...Now...ALways...Forever...Maxwell
You put your name at the end of the comment, but did not at the beginning. Did you mean to do that because I can take the name off. I would not want you to be embarrassed by the ramblings you just put up. None of it makes any sense. You did a #5 disinfo push by attacking the messanger and then rambled and gave no evidence or even a clear description of what you disagreed with. You simply gave a salute to Satan.
You know, the guy you have to pedophile little children, then murder them and drink their blood. You know, that good guy! LOL Wow, you have been bought and paid for full bore and fooled big time. Satan believes in free will, but he also believes he can lie, deceive and do anything he wants to get you to use your agency to pick the evil side and then you are responsible for your choice, even though what he told you is a big fat lie.
Maxwell, forgot to ask, how did you get on the comment section without going through the moderation system?
I think I approved it, Vatic Master. Not that I necessarily agree with Maxwell's posting, but saw no reason to censor it.
No, I agree whole heartedly. No censorship of any kind, except those we listed above the comment box.
If you did not agree with his comments, does that mean you understood those comments? Please translate for me since I have no clue what he was saying. I can guess that it was a supportive dissertation in favor of Satan, but that is just a guess. If you know what he was saying, can you translate it for me in plain english??? I would really appreciate it.
The only thing we censor: No racist remarks, and no call for sedition, which is not the same as purging enemies from within that are foreign occupiers. That is defending your nation.
You caught me, Vatic Master. When I wrote that I "did not necessarily agree" with his posting, I was being a bit loosey-goosey with the language and jumping ahead of myself. You are correct that both agreement and disagreement are founded on some form of understanding. That is missing each time I read Maxwell's thoughts. Thus, I am also unable to translate.
Its driving me crazy, I want to know what he was trying to say. I cannot even pretend to guess. I can speculate but then that does no good if I am wrong. Then I can't respond appropriately. Oh, well, it was an interesting interlude. LOL
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