2013-04-15

Sheriffs suing own state over guns

Vatic Note:  Oh, my goodness,  I'll tell you what shocked me.... is that this author and publication did not spend one ounce of time pointing out the ignorance of those democrats not only on the issue of guns, how they work, magazines, bullets, vs ammo, but on the subject of Rape..... my goodness and they make laws???

That is more scary than guns.   The damage to us is far greater over a larger number of people with the stroke of a pen and the raising of the hand to vote on something, they know absolutely nothing about and probably haven't read, then the confrontation of one law breaker by someone with a gun in defense of themselves. Every democrat that spoke on  the issue showed their total ignorance of gun ownership and WND did not point it out.  WHY???

I was appalled at the various responses...for instance, if I were a woman in Salazars district, I would be furious at his comment.  First of all what is a woman going to do..... turn to the rapist  and say "Excuse me a moment, I have to use the call box before you rape me, so I can get some help?  Then  we will have to wait til someone shows up?"   Do you honestly thing that rapist is going to let her make that call?

I had a similar situation when I was a young woman.  I was with two other girls in our early 20's and we were walking home from a concert at about 10 pm, when 4 guys came up behind us and started making horrible sexual remarks.  My friends got scared,  but I had a .22 starter pistol in my purse.  There were no cops around, nor any phone available that we could see, and it was in the days of no cell phones.  

I decided to pull out my starter pistol and show it to my friends, in  a manner that the guys behind us could see.   It looks just like a real .22 revolver, however, its used to start races and thus does not shoot real ammo, but makes the same kind of noise.   Well, these guys saw me showing it to my firends and one of them yelled,  "SHE'S GOT A GUN, LETS GET THE F... OUT OF HERE!" and they took off.

I believe that saved our lives.  I do not believe they intended for us to stay alive after they did whatever they intended, so that we could report them.  OBVIOUSLY, MR. SALAZAR LEADS EITHER A SEQUESTERED LIFE, OR HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR WOMEN AND BELIEVES OUR SEXUAL INTEGRITY  IS FOR HIM TO DECIDE WHAT IT WILL BE.

Good thng he is not in my district.  He would be unelected soon.  RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECALL PETITION SIGNING FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVE WHO VOTED FOR THE VARIOUS GUN CONTROL BILLS.

They are getting the signatures they need, since this district is a gun owners district and he is out big time, when the recall election is called.  He is a one time only rep for our state.  McLaughlin is his name so watch out Colorado, in case he moves into your district to run again.  He lied during his campaign so you will not be able to trust anything he says.

Sheriffs suing own state over guns
http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/sheriffs-suing-own-state-over-guns/#RfM1Uv1HgYJYkR77.99
by Jack Minor, World Net daily



Exposing the disconnect between Colorado politicians and the law enforcement officers charged with upholding the law, more than half of the sheriffs in the state are planning to file a lawsuit against recent gun control laws passed by Democrats.

The lawsuit was announced by Weld County Sheriff John Cooke on Tuesday. Cooke has previously said he will not enforce the new gun control laws, because he believes they are unconstitutional.

“The legislators ignored the will of the people and passed these unconstitutional gun laws, and they need to be held accountable for their decision,” Cooke told WND.

While politicians may pass the laws, law-enforcement officials are the ones who have to deal with the real-world implications of putting the new laws into effect. Because of this, 37 of the state’s 62 sheriffs have announced their plans to file a lawsuit against the new laws, saying they are unconstitutional and unenforceable.

David Kopel, an attorney with the Independence Institute, which will handle the case, said the brief is still being prepared, but he expects to file it in the next few weeks.

“We are still working out the details, but there is a very solid case here. We are still working on some of the specifics, however we do feel we have a variety of strong legal claims that are worth bringing to court,” he said.
In the current legislative session, Democratic lawmakers, who hold the majority in both houses, rammed through a series of gun-control measures pushed by the Obama administration.
Among the measures are requirements for universal background checks for gun transfers and a ban on magazines that hold more than 15 rounds. Additionally, residents now wishing to exercise their Second Amendment right must now pay a fee. The laws are among the toughest in the nation passed since the Sandy Hook massacre in December.

During the legislative process leading to the passage of the bills – all signed by Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper – the state’s sheriffs have been at the forefront of the opposition, drawing even a veiled threat from Democrats in the statehouse that a proposed raise for  law enforcement officers was at risk.

The sheriffs have frequently said the laws are unconstitutional and unenforceable. To minimize that message, Democrats allowed only one sheriff to testify on each bill as they came through the legislature.

State officials admitted they were doing the bidding of the White House. In February, Vice President Joe Biden flew to the state to strong-arm Democratic lawmakers who were feeling pressure from their constituents to vote against the bills.

“He (Biden) said it would send a strong message to the rest of the country that a Western state had passed gun-control bills,” Tony Exhum, a Democratic lawmaker from Colorado Springs, told the Denver Post.

House Majority Leader Mark Ferrandino, an open homosexual who also pursued a “civil unions” agenda this year, admitted the gun-control bills introduced by fellow Democrats had national implications.

“I was shocked that he called. He said he thought the bills could help them on a national level,” Ferrandino said.

Following Hickenlooper’s signature, President Obama came to the state last week for what some have criticized as a “victory lap.”

While in Colorado, Obama said the federal government should follow the state’s example and pass similar gun control laws.

While the president used cadets at the Denver Police Academy as props during his speech, the sheriffs let the president know they were not happy with the passage of his proposals. Illustrating the problem with the transfer ban, El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa handed an ammunition magazine to another sheriff and noted during a news conference that this act would soon be illegal when the law takes effect July 1.

The legislation banning some magazines does not simply ban the sale of large capacity magazines, it also bans their transfer, meaning the act of handing the magazine to a spouse or friend to borrow or assist in clearing a jam would be a violation of the law.

Believing that their concerns have been ignored and that the gun control measures have gone too far, the sheriffs are in the process of filing a lawsuit against the legislation.

Kopel said others are joining the sheriffs in the lawsuit.

Cooke explained that it would be hypocritical if the sheriffs did not sue.
“We have said these laws are unconstitutional and if we truly believe what we are saying then we need to put our money where our mouth is, so to speak,” Cooke said. “These laws are an infringement on people’s Second Amendment rights and we need to represent and stand up for the citizens who voted us into office.”

Cooke has stated publicly that the laws are unenforceable.

“Those who currently own magazines that hold over 10 rounds are grandfathered in,” Cooke said. “However, if a resident goes to another state and buys an illegal magazine after the law takes effect, we have no way of knowing when he purchased it unless he admits it to us. Remember, the burden of proof is on us to prove he broke the law, not for him to prove he didn’t.”
Regarding the background checks, Cooke said that is easily worked around by crossing the border to a neighboring state.

“All a person has to do legally is go across the border to Wyoming and conduct a private sale,” he explained. “There is no background check required up there and again, there is no way for us to prove where the sale took place. How will we know if the sale or transfer occurred illegally or not?”

The Colorado gun battle also created a number of opportunities for Democrat gaffes. U.S. Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Colo., for example, displayed her ignorance of ammunition magazines.

“I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them; so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot, and there won’t be any more available,” she said.



The Denver Post said DeGette didn’t appear to understand that a firearm magazine can be reloaded with more bullets.

Another notable comment came from state Sen. Evie Hudak, D-Westminster, who scolded a witness opposing one of the gun restrictions.

Amanda Collins, 27, of Reno, Nev., was telling her story of being assaulted and explained that had she been carrying a concealed weapon, the incident might have ended differently.

“I just want to say that, actually statistics are not on your side even if you had a gun,” Hudak scolded. “And, chances are that if you would have had a gun, then he would have been able to get that from you and possibly use it against you.”
Hudak continued, speaking over the committee witness, “The Colorado Coalition Against Gun Violence says that every one woman who used a handgun in self-defense, 83 here are killed by them.”

Finally able to resume her testimony, Collins said, “Senator, you weren’t there. I know without a doubt [the outcome would have been different with a gun].
“He already had a weapon,” she told the meeting of the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee. “He didn’t need mine.”



Then there was the comment from state Rep. Joe Salazar.

He said that a woman who feels threatened by rape on a college campus doesn’t need to be armed because she can use a call box to get help. Salazar’s statement came in a debate over a proposal to ban citizens possessing a concealed-carry permit from being armed on university campuses.

“It’s why we have call boxes,” said Salazar, “it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around, or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop a round at somebody.”





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