2012-09-07

Is Veterans Today Trying to Ratchet up Civil War in America?


Vatic Note:  Once in a while, not often, I do not agree with Duff.  His bias is to the left, instead of for America,  and it gets in the way of his otherwise good insights.   This is one of those cases.  Lets look at what he is saying and rather than try to put it all up here, I decided to ask you to watch for my sub vatic notes at the time he says something that blatantly shows his bias instead of discussing the truth.   Let me clearly state that I take no pleasure in doing this, since I have the highest regard for Gordon and his site.  My use of his articles on here proves that.  

This is just speculation on my part, so take it for what its worth, but this entire article smacks of division at a time when we are united against the bankers, fed reserve, international players, CFR, Bilderbergs, etc.   They cannot do martial law without violence and they promised us a civil war.  Is this one of their feeble attempts to get us to  hate each other?  IT WON'T WORK NOW.  WE know the game. We watched it play out in the Middle East. 

IT MIGHT HAVE WORKED ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO, BUT NOT TODAY.  We know too much now.  Sorry, martial law will have to be done illegally if at all.  YOU WILL NOT GET OUR GUNS AND AMMO EITHER, at least not in the way you expect to get them.  Oh, and forget about trying to pit Muslims against Christians,  and vice versa, since that won't work either.  Hiring or putting in CIA and Mossad operatives pretending to be whatever, like you did in every country in the Middle East,  and having them turn violent, will result in them being brought down by those around them like the Canadians did when the bankers tried it on them a year or so ago, and these protesters, who will not use violence, will be the ones to stop the infiltrators.  We saw how good they did during "Occupy wall Street" when infiltrators tried to start violence and were stopped with cameras filming them by the OWS protesters who were not in on the scam. 

So, what I have done is side by side analysis to show how he is wrong. Give your feed back and input.  No censorship here like I am starting to get elsewhere. LOL  Not mentioning any names.  We want free and open discussion so information can  be shared and verified and minds changed.  Heck, I even invite Gordon to counter my points right here as well as on his forum and I promise to seriously consider them and respond.  That would help our readers to form their own thoughts on the subject.   Your brave and a vet, and I am brave and a vet, so neither of us can lose.  Lets do it.   I put Gordons comments in Blue and mine are the same as they always are in brown and bold, so you can see who is saying what.  I use the VN: to identify myself.  As usual, I am a woman and more verbose.  

Mind Control and the “Left – Right” Paradigm http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/03/mind-control-and-the-left-right-paradigm/
posted by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor,  Veterans Today
September 5, 2012


TIME WE GET THIS “OFTEN HIJACKED” SYMBOL RIGHT FOR A CHANGE

No Difference?  Carry a Scorpion in Your Pocket in Place of Car Keys

Kaizer Soze said it best in the film, “The Usual Suspects.”  “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince people he didn’t exist.”  
(VN:  Sounds like the zionist bankers,  like right now, trying to convince us they don't exist, that its the candidates who are the problem. Both candidates are owned and its why the GOP illegally prevented Ron Pauls delegates from being seated, and why the dems pushed Kucinich out in the cold during the primary race.  It was the dems leadership that recruited and funded someone to run against kucinich and that was illegal because they take donations from supporters of both candidates and are not suppose to do what they did during a primary, only during a general against the opposing party, can they spend money against the other candidate from the other party.  NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES.  Its no longer about party "line", its about going along with the zionist bankers, psychos and globalists, regardless of party.  See how easy it was for both of these parties to violate both state and federal law because they are assured of not being prosecuted.  We see that clearly.  No one who should be in jail, is in jail.  Not the case for Iceland and they are moving toward recovery and we are not. ) 


This is the nature of the ”psyop” being run on Americans.  Wall Street, the Likudist lobby from Israel, working to start a world economic collapse and nuclear war, organized crime, all of them are working in concert to convince Americans that the Democrats and Republicans are the same and it doesn’t matter who you vote for.   
(VN:  Not true,  they are trying to convince us we are enemies instead of Americans, because of party,  while what they are doing affects all of us both right and left equally.  There are patriotic Americans that do not see one iota of difference between the parties and they are not brainwashed, rather they see what each party's President did and both harmed our nation, its Constitution, and definitely its BILL OF RIGHTS THAT MANY VETERANS FOUGHT AND DIED TO PRESERVE,  since the majority in the house is GOP and the majority in the Senate is Dem and neither house has overturned the 983 Obama EO's signed since 2009, nor have they overturned the NDAA,  NOR NAIS, nor Senate bill 510 if my memory serves me right, controlling private food growing on private property that harms no one.  That is just a wiggle of all the things Obama & Bush have done that neither house has overturned or even tried to overturn. Both acted like scam artists,  Bush was the set up man and Obama the hammer or closer to the scam.   To truly make the point,  neither house has overturned all the Bill of Rights gutting EO's that Bush signed either.   Makes one wonder who is working for who, it sure ain't us.  There is no difference between the two parties and I am not a Likudist lobbyist, or wall street or part of any psychops.  How about you???  In fact, I am a veteran.  So now what? ) 


The trick is called “undermining public faith in institutions,” a way of making a population controllable and gullible.  
(VN:  Gordon, truth, and honesty has a tendency to do just that, undermine public confidence, when the truth is as follows:   You don't seriously think that happened because someone said so???  No, it happened because no one in either party controlled house is working, speaking, and acting for the public, except Ron Paul and Dennis kucinich and who do you think got both Paul and Kucinich  and  Cynthia McKinney, kicked out of office when they were incumbants?  The GOP obviously did Ron Paul, but both dem candidate incumbants were ousted in the dem PRIMARY, NO LESS.  For the dems it was Nancy pelosi and Rahm Emmanual who did in Cynthia, AND Nancy Pelosi and her majority whip did in Kucinich....  because Cynthia was holding hearings on 9-11, so ousting her protected the republicans who aided in 9-11.   PRIMARIES ARE CONTROLLED BY THE LEADERSHIP OF EACH PARTY, IN EVERY WAY.  So, the question, Gordon, is why would dem leadership do something to one of their own to protect the other party?   I can hardly wait for you to show me how that is not being like each other.  Its worse, its like they help each other and fight only for our bemusement and distraction and division, which helps the evil insane ones in achieving their agenda.)    

Thus, Mitt Romney can be a crime boss, laundering drug money through thousands of overseas accounts, can claim to be a self made man though born a multi-millionaire and can advocate a war that would destroy the world and nobody pays attention, or at least aren’t supposed to because “he is like everyone else.”  
(VN:  Not true,  he is not like everyone else, or he would not be the GOP candidate.  He is exactly like Obama's handlers who control treasury, federal reserve etc. who are all criminal mafia types.  He is owned by Israel the same way Obama is.  This is no longer any secret.  When Obama did what he did after being elected in keeping many of Bush's appointments in key positions, and filling the remainder of the positions with dual Israeli citizens and then acting like a revolving door by having one of his advisors become the rep for AIPAC, is not like acting independantly....  it proved to almost everyone there is no difference between the parties, since Obama received more money from bankers than McCain did, where traditionally the GOP candidate receives more from the bankers, but not the case in 2008, since Obama was the "designated" winner per Bilderberg, after their meeting,  he even kept Bush JR.s SEC OF DEFENCE, and they started and expanded wars into other countries.  How is that not like Romney?  explain that one?  See, we are not as dumb out here as the zionists would like to believe, just because we are goyim, does not mean we are stupid.) 

Romney is, as Michael Chester put it, a “sociopath.”  He is technically emotionally dead, capable of acts of endless barbarity while being both charming and willing to say anything he thinks anyone else wants to hear.  
(VN:  Sounds like McCain in 2008, doesn't it?  Right,  and McCain was the designated loser who was NOT CALLED BEFORE BILDERBERG, like Obama and Hillary were.  So who is running who??? McCain is a psychopath, just like Lieberscum and Romney, so it must be something to do with eastern seaboard air quality.  No difference between the parties and if there is a lack of confidence in our institutions, don't you think it might have something to do with the 16 trillion dollars in tax money  paid  out of the Tarp Bill against the intent of Congress, that the Fed Res gave to foreign countries banks, to our banks and brokerage houses because they engaged in illegal betting through derivatives?  Then AIG, GOT BAILED OUT, AND $250,000  dollars in AIG STOCK IS OWNED BY PELOSI and other dems?  WHERE IS THE PROSECUTION BY  OBAMA'S  AG  , YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT WAS PART OF FAST AND FURIOUS SELLING MILITARY WEAPONS TO ZETA CARTEL TO KILL AMERICANS ALONG THE BORDER???  

Sounds like no difference to me!  Same policy by Bush! When Bilderberg calls someone before them, you can bet they are the designated winner of the election LIKE OBAMA TURNED OUT TO BE?  That has been the case so far regardless of party, both sides, its happened. Ryan went before the Bilderbergs this time around.  And guess who became Romney's VP?   WE  HAVE NOT ELECTED A PRESIDENT BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE SINCE JFK.  it all changed with his death.  Now that hovers like a reminder to every politician who thinks he can buck the system now in place.  ASK WELLSTONE AND JFK JR.  AND THE SPOUSE OF A 9-11 VICTIM WHO TRIED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO PROVE TO OBAMA IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB. SHE MISTAKENLY THOUGHT HE WAS A PRESIDENT IN FACT INSTEAD OF IN NAME ONLY.   Like Wellstone and JFK, she had a plane accident that was unexplainable. Mossads favorite assassination tool.   What about cheneys assassination squads that continued under Obama with Rahm Emmanual in charge of them?  Doesn't that sound like "no difference" to you? ) 

He has no beliefs because he has no personality, never had one, never will.  He has no beliefs, only money and a dog that rides on the roof of his car as long as the straps hold
(VN:  No president since JFK has had any beliefs in anything, except advancing Israel's position within the government and infiltration, spying and murder have occurred by their hand, including the USS Liberty,  the USS Cole, 9-11, WACO, now we find out Israeli terrorists were with McVeigh at OKC as well.  ISRAEL HAS KILLED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES PUT TOGETHER AND SHE IS SUPPOSE TO BE AN ALLY.  Who pays their destroyer out of their money to destroy them?  Only an idiot.  The British paper after the Bush reelection was right..... Here was the headline "51 MILLION AMERICANS CAN'T BE THAT STUPID, CAN THEY?"  YES, THEY CAN. ) 

Medicare, paid for by American citizens through payroll deduction can be given over to insurance companies kept alive by government bailouts, companies that used that money to pay top executives huge bonuses.  (VN:  How come only drug companies were allowed at the committee table to work out Obama's health care bill, in a democratically controlled and chaired committee?  but those advocating for universal health care were not seated?  How come Eugenics was included in the bill with respect to senior citizens and the permanently handicapped?  Have you read Ezekial Emmanuals paper on eugenics yet?  I strongly recommend you do that and notice what he says about covering seniors and permenantly handicapped since they carry no value to society?  Do you even know what is going on in your own party?  Read the health care bill, they have a committee of non professionals who will determine who will be covered and who will not and read what criteria they are to use.)

Social Security is to be privatized, money  paid in by millions of Americans is to be given to the banks, who steal every cent they get and then ask to have it replaced, stealing more, all of it eventually only comes out of the pockets of the middle class and far more from the working poor than imagined, the largest sector of American employment today.  (VN:  Obama has had 3 years to prosecute those you mention for stealing our money, so where is the prosecution of these bankers???  NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES.) 

If a bank vice president, here in Toledo is married, owns a home, has two children and his wife (or her husband) doesn’t work, they are considered well below the poverty line.

If they own or lease a late model car, they are probably bankrupt.


It wasn’t Democrats that did this.  (VN: Aaaah, I am afraid it was.  Remember, dems were majority in house and senate after the 2004 election, and they did not fillibuster, when they were minority before then, on the horrible court appointments to the supreme court, where a lot of our problems could have been solved, and remember, Obama appointed a chief executive of Goldman sachs to treasury and Fed Reserve board, just like Bush did with Paulson.  Please,  you know these things, why are you not speaking about them,  truth is more important than party since we won't fix any of this continuing this same back and forth game between parties every election and nothing changes.  I was encouraged when the Dems voted down the tarp bill in the house in 2008, but the Senate voted for it.  A Stale mate, but then we found out Paulson threatened both parties in the house and then they voted for it, passing that abortion that was raping the American middle class that you are so  worried about. ) 

From Newsroom, the HBO “what if” news series:


Here is a touch of reality.  We don’t have a “right,” we only have a taliban, a pack of knuckle dragging morons who are enslaved by endless heavily financed propaganda originating from sources that propagandize and lie in order to control the world, rule through the stupid by the evil.  (VN:  Finally, we agree on something) 

If you are one of these, get yourself “fixed” and lose your voting card.

As for the “left?”  There never was a “left.”  The joke members of what  is called the left are stooges of the Israel lobby, a half dozen hollywood freaks and, when you look under the surface, you find they have always belonged to the same groups the right does. (VN:  Wow, another agreement. Indeed, this is encouraging).

What the right thinks is the left is a theatrical crew hired by the handlers who numbed down their brains to the sub-human, “too dumb to climb a tree” level.

I could explain the constitution, if we had time.  I am not writing this for the typical VT audience as most of them are well beyond anything I am saying now.  Most have known this for decades, spotted the mob connections that run the GOP, try to make the best they can out of Democrats who have risen to the top out of compromise and have learned to keep their mouths shut. (VN:  I knew it couldn't last....lol ..... so the GOP are the bad guys, but the dems are just stupid?  Is that what you are saying?  And you expect someone to believe that??? Who???  Lets do some hints.  Who is Israel's best friend at state?  Who appointed that best friend at state?  So, who does Israel run?  Which party is that?   How stupid is she?  NOT!  She is quite brilliant. I could do this with all 32 dual israeli citizens running our White House, not to mention congress since they can no longer bring in their own trusted staff. ) 

Anyone with a realistic view would, as I have suggested before, vote in a powerful and charismatic leader, have the Supreme Court disbanded, disband congress, have a realistic constitution written, disband the Federal Reserve, fire 85% of our senior military, 50% of our Officer and NCO corps and reduce military spending by 80% immediately.  (VN:  You forgot to include purging the entire intelligence community and replace them, and close all military bases overseas, bring all troops home, apologize to all the countries Bush and Obama's handlers forced him to invade, and make restitution, and stay home,  guard our own country, and mind our own business and let the corporations act like corporations instead of 2nd world countries that are dictatorships.  No more "US fronting for Israeli", military and intel community "ECONOMIC HITMEN" in third world countries.  Turn all corporate assets in third world countries back over to their duly elected governments and let them decide along with the people who should get what and what they should retain.  Finally, you forgot to mention prosecution for multiple crimes committed both nationally and internationally on the bankers involved,  and their collaborators, and then seize all assets under the RICO Act and pay back the treasury and debts to foreign nations.  It would be in the trillions of dollars.  We could get back on our feet.)

We would withdraw from the UN, from NATO, close bases overseas, stop all foreign aid, end all imports from slave labor nations and tax the living hell out of anything brought into the US.
(VN:  AAAH, we are back on track again.  I fully agree. I even said pretty much the same thing above before I got down here to find you had said it.)

All money that couldn’t be proven to have been made legally, industry that creates jobs, actual work, would be declare “null and void.”  (VN:  Good, I like that one too.  but  unfortunately Ron Paul was not nominated.  So, how do we do all this?  Oh, and no more privatized public services, they are to be done by the agency that we the people hired to do the job, just look at the failure of privatizing in the post office, that is a joke.  Take prisons away from the corporations and provide decent food, medical and training to inmates to help reenter society and the work place so they can build a life again, and not come back.)

Most in prison would be released, some treated, sex criminals isolated, others given jobs and educations and forced to live like the rest of us, paying taxes and utility bills. (VN:  Oh, now you are talking cruel and unusual punishment.  LOL  Just kidding, I agree and rehab and then make drugs legal like they used to be so offenders would not be criminals.  Make parents do their job of parenting and teaching the kids to stay away from drugs and what they can do to destroy your life.  LOVE YOUR CHILDREN and they won't need the drugs.) 

All public utilities would be seized and turned over to the government, oil companies nationalized, all defense industries nationalized, all drug industries put under continual supervision and forced to spend all profits on government bonds.  (VN:  Hahahahaa, I love the government bonds idea.  But that might tick off China?  But have the drug Co prosecuted first for all the millions per year they murder, and  they must be forced to do drug trials that can be verified and documented before ever being approved to go out on the market.  All Revolving door employees of regulatory agencies must be fired, then prosecuted for criminal neglect intentionally of their jobs.)

All educational institutions would face immediate closure for lying.  Mythology would no longer be taught as history.  (VN:  ahahahaa, another great one.  OK, I am sorry for the tone I used above. But I meant every word of my disagreement.)

Where there are lessons, even if Mormon and from Utah, community standards would be enforced.  Social standards for the raising of children would be debated and the effects of, not just the one parent family, but the war between men and women, one fed by the media, the courts and police, would come to an end.  (VN:  Ok this one confused me, but I think I know what you are saying.  So, I will hold off commenting until I fully understand what you are saying.  I hope its not that the "state" is going to control the debate over social standards etc.  Also put EDUCATION BACK LOCAL WITH LOCAL ADMIN, TEACHERS AND PARENTS LIKE IT USED TO BE WHEN WE WERE 2ND IN EDUCATION.  Totally disband the dept of energy completely.   Turn the money over to local school districts to enhance and improve their teaching and educational standards and real history has to be taught.   And civics and government is mandatory classes for all students.) 

America would be about real family values, not robbery, drugs, terrorism and religious leaders with a penchant for totalitarianism and dirty sex.   We don’t need political correctness, we need good manners.   (VN:  I agree, civility needs to be brought back into line and TV programming before 9 PM  has to pass the civility and and socializing benchmark and no damn sex, violence or innuendos until after the kids go to bed at 9.  That includes ads as well, no Calvin Klein until after 10 pm.  BAN MTV FROM THE AIRWAYS PERMANENTLY)

We have become a nation of internet trolls, where the educated spend  years being taught lies, where the ignorant are taught to hate them for their stupidity, perhaps rightly so and everyone has learned to fear our government which is no longer one iota “ours.” (VN: AND IS  RIGHTLY TO BE FEARED IN ITS CURRENT condition caused by the  OCCUPATION BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT that assassinates those who disagree with them.  No more assassination squads and its a death penalty if you do.)  

All of the ideas expressed are VERY conservative, totally disagree with the actions of the GOP and about a third of the Dems as well.   (VN:  They are not conservative based on the definition of conservative,  they are totalitarian and dictatorial and that has been under both parties leadership in the White House and the congress.  No more damn hate talk.    The right and left can duke it out over policy and then have a barbeque with family and friends and do it together LIKE WE USED TO DO.  Politics was never a hate game.... as it has become one under Rove and ilk like him in both parties.  Its why it was attracting so many psychos.)

We work hard, support American investment, American industry, reinvestment in America and America only.   No money moves overseas, all money held overseas is either worthless or immediately repatriated.

We close our borders to immigration except where those coming in follow rules we agree on, we call those rules “laws.”


We eliminate the importation of illegal narcotics, control and legalize those that aren’t social threats and then work to minimize or eliminate those, along with cigarettes, abuse of alcohol, the use of gasoline, nuclear power and coal.


We end all pollution and clean up every mess made and punish anyone who thinks it is a “conservative right” (VN:  or liberal right) to dump cancer causing solvents by the shipload into America’s water supply or to infect our food supply with genetically modified crops, meat filled with hormones and anti-biotics, are you getting the picture?  (VN:  YES, WE ARE and we are loving it, now all you have to do is fix the beginning of this and you have it all right.  REMEMBER,  WE ALL SUFFER UNDER THE SAME HORRORS AND THUS IN THIS WE ARE UNITED.  We will disagree when you try to tell me a socialist system is better than a TRUE FREE MARKET ECONOMY.  I grew under one, owned my own small business under one and hired and paid taxes more than those that worked for me,   I also contributed to advancing their education and worked with several that needed rehab for alcohol and drugs. No more insensitive giant mega corp and we must enforce the SHERMAN ANTI TRUST ACT SO THESE CORPS  CAN'T GO IN  AND MONOPOLIZE WHOLE INDUSTRIES AND THEN YANK US AROUND ONCE THEY DO.  iT WOULD BE SERIOUS JAIL TIME FOR ANYONE WHO DOES.  LIKE 20 YEARS TO LIFE. Our nation grew into a great economic power house and was the model for the world when we had true free markets until the khazars got involved, no fiat banking either, gold backed and silver currency and credit.  I believe we could help smaller countries and empoverished countries by training their smartest and brightest in the ways of free  markets and how to regulate them so  they stay free, and not monopolized by giant mega corps.

This is why there are two parties, one to be eliminated immediately, one to be controlled and a government to be tossed aside and replaced with one that will work for the common good, be answerable to the electorate and stimulate human progress.  (VN:  We disagree again.  I agree that BOTH PARTIES should be disbanded,   people should run as neighbors and be quizzed and answer questions and be held accountable for their promises.   Its the real world to be held accountable when you promise to do something and you don't.  It is the political parties that corruption is direct through to the candidates.  Without any parties, that can't be done.  you run as yourself and on your record whatever that maybe.  Free airtime for campaigning and no money into the races from outside interests.  NO FOREIGN COUNTRY LOBBYING EITHER. I do not believe in giving one side rights and forbidding rights for the other side.  It goes against everything we  believe in.  Its just another form of a police state only this time on the left.  No thank you,  either you do both or neither. We keep the republic form of government and not a full democracy since that is a dictatorship of the majority.  Minorities need a voice and the republic type of governing structure provides for that voice if run as it was intended.  ) 

If the real Founding Fathers were alive today and read this, what would they think?  (VN:  I know, what they would think,  READ THE FEDERALIST PAPERS AND HOW THEY WARNED AGAINST ALL POLITICAL  PARTIES.  They will tell you that is why they did not put political parties anywhere in the constitution or bill of rights.  Corruption is not unique only to the GOP.  Capishe? You lose credibility when you only focus on one and ignore the crimes of the other, you are close to being right, except for socialism, since that is the first step nazi germany took, under the bankers to inculcate  the fascist system into the government, and then you end up with a Homeland Zecurity dept.... that becomes the new SS, TSA ring a bell?  We saw what happened here with the TARP bill.  The Ron Paul audit resulted in discovering just what they have been doing in the trillions of dollars under both Bush and Obama.  )

For sure, they would recognize the GOP as tories, pack them up, mail them to Canada, hang them from trees, like was done during the War of 1812 when the Federalists were “disappeared” and risk their lives and fortunes to bring about a new era of freedom.  (VN: No they wouldn't because they believed everyone had a right to their opinion , even if it was not "popular" or "politically correct".   We will always have diverse opinions, its a reflection of our society how we deal with them.  Lets make ourselves as we used to be.  Disagree and then have a picnic together and leave politics in its proper perspective.  Whether you like it or not, we are a major part of the problem.  how come  we were so easily manipulated into hating each other?  Answer that?  Next time we do not vote for anyone who is selling hate, I don't care which party they are from.) 

Rhetoric? Not hardly!   (VN:  The grass roots of both parties are made up of good people, good hardworking and caring people who love their country.   We must acknowledge that about each other and our good intentions, and shake hands as Americans and agree to disagree and work in campaigns of those people who reflect our values.   Be good sports regardless of who wins.  Division is death for the nation,  Unity is its salvation and we can only do that if we do not listen to the naysayers and hate mongerers.   UNITED WE STAND AND DIVIDED WE FALL, ITS HISTORY!  Never has a nation won when they were divided.  You need to decide. )  

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14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good piece Vatic Master. There's still some "meat on the bone" as the saying goes, with regards to solutions, but a good start is suggested. I find by surfing around, that many folks are riding the same "wave". Interesting how that happens. I'll point you to this piece which in a way mirrors this article of yours: http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/boot-them-all-out/

Vatic Master said...

Good find, Anonymous, in fact, great find. I like his style and no holds barred delivery. Kind of like my own. LOL

I feel that no holds barred delivery is now essential, no more pansy talk and pretend rational discourse, its time to speak it as it is and hold back nothing since we are not that far away from the bullets flying and they are hollow point, but then that means....... never mind. hehehehe

Anonymous said...

Very good article. When I started listening to Duff a couple years ago, I like him. Over time I learned that his accuracy rate was very low.
I dont even read his stuff anymore.
I have had email correspondence with Duff.
1. I told him 2 days after the Egypt uprising that it as done by the west, and they would put the muslim brotherhood in. He didnt believe me.
2. I knew about 911, weeks before it happened, (jones/cooper), and Duff didnt even know about building 7 until a few years ago, his own admission.
3. Duff said Israel sent 50,000 mercenaries to Libya..I KNEW that was total dis-info and when I asked him what happened, he said "a couple thousand went" altho there is no proof of that, and he never retracted his article.
I could do this all day. The point is, either duff is a massive PTSD victim, or he is a psyop...About a month ago, in his own words, Duff said he has a very high income, but did not say from what.
Duff has been exposed,and you my friend did a great job.
Oh by the way, I am getting so sick and tired of people with the left/right attitude. Being left or right clouds your thought process of truth...

Vatic Master said...

You know, you are right about that. I overlooked some stuff because on major stuff he was right on, for instance he was the first one on the net to inform us that Obama was a dual Israeli citizen.

He also exposed wikipedia as being manipulated by Israeli volunteers who monitor everything said on there and make changes that do not serve Israel.

He also exposed Assange and later I found out he was right when Assange admitted that he gave previews of his releases for approval to Hitlary who is SOS, and Israel who has no business over here in our business.

So, for me, its a mixed blessing. That is why I did this one the way I did it. I am hoping he will respond so we can have a good discussion, but I doubt that he even knows its up. LOL

Anonymous said...

Super article analysis and grander commentary...
People forget Duff is military, so of course he is compartmentalized. And, knowing he is feed information via those channels, we must expect the outcome to be tainted with agendas galore. I see no sign of him looking within his heart... Let us not forget, he'll come up with enough good sounding info to make him valid, but the disinfo is why one should never put their eggs all in one basket.
Take a look at his bio LOL
"Duff currently serves on the boards of the Adamus Group, one of the world's largest and energy technology firms and of a private financial institution participating in the Federal Reserve Banking group."
http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/

The elephant in the room is the whole system, consisting of all societal institutions. We've been institutionalized. Anyone claiming any one branch is good, needs to totally step out of the 3d box, looking at how it's connected. That means you too, the religions that also divide. It isn't just political parties that have no place in a "we the people" atmosphere. The system is all all group think, with individuals taking an oath, pledge, etc, devoting their life to the big game, and I'm not just talking sports here - any group, be it the BAR, a political party, religion, Masons and so on. Planet earth is controlled and they do it via government - Don't you see the words - "over" "men" within that word, that system? Hiding behind "government" are agencies privately owned aka a corporation. For crap's sake, most persons don't even know the Postal Service is a private company along with the Federal Reserve (Federal's roots are from Rome) Every thing is monetized, even your body - that is why you pay "income" taxes (NM you earn an wage), social security, property taxes and on and on and on.... Your name is in CAPs because the system capitalizes upon you the sheeple. Earth was never for sale so who has the authority over you, making you pay for your natural rights, no one!

Group teaching aka the educational school system is programming via the controls they are implementing. Forget public schools, people were smarter when learning went on at home because children are in the thinking mode, whereas group think is telling you what to think. Upper level training continues for their system, what they've planned ahead for, their agendas. Amazing how all of a sudden there were plenty of people ready to take care of autistic children. It was an agenda via vaccines. Wake up people! Here's a link for a vaccine telling you autism is a side affect. Pg 11.
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm101580.pdf

Blah@! People still don't see the totality of the mess because the masses are asses... Vaccines are changing our DNA/RNA, corrupting people with cancer, autism, allergies etc.

Going back to our roots, all things natural, is when people will get closer to the truth. The answers are not outside of ourselves. Once we give our power away to those societal institutions, political party etc, we've lost the game. Indeed it is a game being played only unless one is awake, they won't see the rules are stacked against them, like I said, within each societal institution. Knowing the definition of words verses taking for granted the common usage, people are easily manipulated.

I'll end with a shocker - a bit of a word etymology on "cure" The common usage of the word "cure" came from curare (Latin - Rome, Doh!)
arrange, undertake (undertaker LOL) http://www.myetymology.com/latin/curare.html

to be continued, next box, comments are limited.

Anonymous said...

Curare-- a concoction made of various plants in creating a poison arrow.
http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/economicbotany/Curare/

toxic - (ties in with the arrow and poison)

1664, from Fr. toxique, from L.L. toxicus "poisoned," from L. toxicum
"poison," from Gk. toxikon (pharmakon) "(poison) for use on arrows," from
toxikon, neut. of toxikos "pertaining to arrows or archery," and thus to a
bow, from toxon "bow," ...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/toxic

So in other words, “to cure” means a burden of responsibility,
but not in the sense of aiding because healing comes from within.
Claiming to be relieving a person of disease with medical treatment is killing them off! The race for the cure (psyops) LOL ---When a body is ill at ease, dis eased because of various stresses, the answer is always found within, naturally - de-stress. The next time someone of the medical mafia offers you a cure, decline their concoction, running in the opposite direction. Bottom line, "sound"health (frequency) is via good energy because "heal" is found within health. As toxins pummel our every physical being, via all five senses, it is the abilities beyond the five that makes lemonade (aid) out of every lemon. No matter how bad anything gets, where there's a will, there's a way. It is this bad now, because the people gave their power away - not willing to do the work and mostly trusting (I blame religion for that) and didn't see the freight train coming despite the tracks laid...

Sorry for the rant that just poured out. The article/comments provided plenty of food for thought.

The best to everyone~!

Vatic Master said...

Wonderful commentary and I agree with most of what you say indeed. a couple of things I would like clarification on, but I am exhausted. Just battled with the PTB to get a blog up for Wednesday, and it took me three hours when it should only take me about 30 minutes to an hour if its a big one and needs a lot of my VN:

So, I am going to bed, but will try to get back to this tomorrow. You are so right on about so much you said, and we have learned that doing this blog and researching ourselves. Did you know that there are two separate governments, one is inactive from the civil war, but its still in existance. Its just laying dormant, but the other one is the one we live with that is a corporation and that is why we are used as collateral for debt. Our bodies, I mean, are the collateral for the debt. There is a way to transfer back to the other one and avoid being part of this contract law system under corporations. This is a fascinating discussion you bring up. Thanks. Will honestly try to get back to this tomorrow as its right up my alley in interest.

gpduf said...

interesting analysis.....with one major exception...

why is the israeli mob giving 100m to beat obama if both candidates are the same

one minor fact undoes everything you say

gotta work on the simple stuff

take on the big stuff when you can get things to fit into the square holes without using a big hammer

gpduf said...

another small point, one made very well on Newsroom

until you get a name and CV, you are to the rest of us a highschool student waiting to drop out or attend a pep rally

hey...i got a bank to run with moody on my back about loan performance...

Vatic Master said...

Gordon, is that you? Where is the link to the $100 million and I promise I will post it. I was not kidding when I said I would love to have a good debate over this because I am seeking truth, not just to be right.

If you are right about that, and its documented, by a reliable source, I promise to post and revise my position on this.

Anonymous said...

either you didn't post because you were busy or it didn't allow the rest of my posting...

I'll end with a shocker - a bit of a word etymology on "cure" The common usage of the word "cure" came from curare (Latin - Rome, Doh!)
arrange, undertake (undertaker LOL) http://www.myetymology.com/latin/curare.html

Curare-- a concoction made of various plants in creating a poison arrow.
http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/economicbotany/Curare/

toxic - (ties in with the arrow and poison)

1664, from Fr. toxique, from L.L. toxicus "poisoned," from L. toxicum
"poison," from Gk. toxikon (pharmakon) "(poison) for use on arrows," from
toxikon, neut. of toxikos "pertaining to arrows or archery," and thus to a
bow, from toxon "bow," ...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/toxic

So in other words, “to cure” means a burden of responsibility,
but not in the sense of aiding because healing comes from within.
Claiming to be relieving a person of disease with medical treatment is killing them off! The race for the cure (psyops) LOL ---When a body is ill at ease, dis eased because of various stresses, the answer is always found within, naturally - de-stress. The next time someone of the medical mafia offers you a cure, decline their concoction, running in the opposite direction. Bottom line, "sound"health (frequency) is via good energy because "heal" is found within health. As toxins pummel our every physical being, via all five senses, it is the abilities beyond the five that makes lemonade (aid) out of every lemon. No matter how bad anything gets, where there's a will, there's a way. It is this bad now, because the people gave their power away - not willing to do the work and mostly trusting (I blame religion for that) and didn't see the freight train coming despite the tracks laid...

Sorry for the rant that just poured out. The article/comments provided plenty of food for thought.

The best to everyone~!

Vatic Master said...

Gordon, where is the link??? Hello, did you get notified that I responded? Hopefully you did and intend to act like an adult who cares about educating and provide the proof of your statement. Thanks. Then we can engage in an adult debate rather than any name calling.... I hope you noticed the tone of the disagree, was not a personal attack on you, rather the opposite. Lets hear back from you on this evidence. Thanks.

Vatic Master said...

Oh, and Gordon, one last piece of advice, its now been proven that watching too much TV will eat away the brain and you will soon begin thinking that is reality rather than the real world. Stay away from those TV programs and deal directly with reality ok??? Looking forward to that link on the $100 million to Romney by the bankers, oh, was your bank one of those that contributed???

Vatic Master said...

Anonymous, Odd, I did post back and said I was too tired to post at that time, but did make some general observations that were in line with what you wrote. I don't know what happened and why it doesn't show. I am glad you finished as you said you were going to write up another comments since the first one was limited by the site.

This is intriguing indeed about the source and root of that word. I did not know about that and am grateful for the information. Thanks again for your insights.