2010-12-12

Giuliani among witnesses who confirm ‘impossible’ molten metal under tower rubble

Bruecke Note: The author of this posting, Craig McKee, is a fresh voice to the 9/11 Truth Movement, although he is banned from 9/11 Blogger. He is the driving force behind the well-written and researched Truth and Shadows blog.

http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/many-witnesses-confirm-molten-metal-under-tower-rubble

December 8, 2010
by Craig McKee

It’s one of the most inconvenient truths of 9/11: molten metal.

Those who support the official government conspiracy theory brush off the question of why there were large pools of molten metal under the World Trade Center for months after the attacks. They won’t give you an answer because there isn’t an answer that fits with their “official story.”

Not one explanation that makes any sense has been given to explain what many eyewitnesses reported.
In the comment streams of this blog and others I’ve seen, doubt has been raised about whether we really know that this molten metal was even there. One person in particular has thrown around ideas like the pools being made up of molten aluminum from the planes. If someone thinks that hypothesis is worth their time to analyze, be my guest. I don’t. On top of not being supported by any evidence at all, it doesn’t work because Building 7, which collapsed even though it wasn’t hit by a plane, also had molten metal pools under it. The source for this is NASA thermal imaging done a couple of weeks after 9/11.

The idea that it was burning jet fuel is equally unbelievable. If someone can make a case for how jet fuel could burn that hot and that long (three months, according to the New York City fire marshal, who pronounced the fires extinguished on Dec. 19, 2001), by all means they’re welcome.

I wrote a post on Oct. 24 about the subject, making the case that planes and collapse simply can’t provide an explanation. I return to the subject because I’d like to reinforce the idea that the pools of molten metal were seen by many people, including then Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani can’t explain them, but he knows they were there.

So, for the record, here are some of the people who say they saw the molten pools. I have not footnoted every quote, but I have cited the book, film, or web site where the quotes can be found. Two of the books were written by David Ray Griffin, so some quotes appear in more than one book. I didn’t refer to the people quoted in Griffin’s Debunking 9/11 Debunking because those witnesses are quoted elsewhere.

The New Pearl Harbor Revisited, by David Ray Griffin:

FDNY Captain Philip Ruvolo said, “You’d get down below and you’d see molten steel, molten steel running down the channel rails, like you’re in a foundry, like lava.”

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, professor of civil engineering at University of California at Berkeley, received a National Science Foundation grant to spend two weeks at Ground Zero studying steel from the buildings. He said he “saw the melting of girders in the World Trade Center.” He described steel flanges that “had been reduced from an inch thick to paper thin.” He said he saw 10-ton steel beams that “looked like giant sticks of twisted licorice.” He said he saw steel that had become smoothly warped at points where beams connected. This he said could only have happened had become yellow or white hot, indicating temperatures “perhaps around 2,000F.”

Professor Alison Geyh of the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health led a scientific team that went to the site shortly after 9/11 on behalf of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences: “In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel.”

Joe O’Toole, a Bronx firefighter who worked for months on the rescue and clean-up efforts, was quoted by Knight Ridder journalist Jennifer Lin. She wrote: “Fires raged underground for months. O’Toole remembers in February seeing a crane lift a steel beam vertically from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero. “It was dripping from the molten steel.”

Dr. Keith Eaton, chief executive of the London-based Institution of Structural Engineers, said that after a tour of the site he was shown slides of “molten metal that was still red hot weeks after the event.”

9/11 Contradictions by David Ray Griffin

Leslie Robertson, who was a member of the engineering firm that designed the twin towers, was quoted by James Williams, the president of the Structural Engineers Association of Utah, as saying in a speech: “As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten metal was still running.” Robertson retreated from this later in an interview that was part of a live debate with physicist Steven Jones in 2006. As you’ll see below, one of Robertson’s own colleagues, Richard Garlock, confirms the existence of the molten metal.
Herb Trimpe, an Episcopalian deacon who was a chaplain at Ground Zero, said: “It was actually warmer on site. The fires burned up to 2,000 degrees for quite a while. I talked to many contractors, and they said… beams had just totally been melted because of the heat.”

Guy Lounsbury of the New York Air National Guard spent several weeks at Ground Zero. He wrote in his journal: “Mountains of rubble five or six storeys high are all that remain of the towers…Smoke constantly poured from the peaks. One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers’ remains.”

The Hidden History of 9-11, edited by Paul Zarembka

Peter Tully of Tully Construction: saw pools of “literally molten steel.”

Mark Loizeaux of Controlled Demolition Inc.: “hot spots of molten steel” found at the bottom of elevator shafts seven basement storeys down.

Greg Fuchek, vice-president of sales for LinksPoint Inc., which supplied some of the computer equipment used to identify human remains at Ground Zero, said the working conditions were “hellish” partly because for six months the ground temperature ranged from 600F to 1,500F.

The 9/11 Mystery Plane and the Vanishing of America by Mark H. Gaffney

Journalist William Langewiesche wrote in American Ground: Unbuilding the World Trade Center about “streams of molten metal that streamed from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole.”

Joel Meyerowitz, photographer, took many pictures around GZ and said rubble was so hot it melted workmen’s boots.

Testimony before 9/11 Commission (historycommons.org)

Ken Holden, who is involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris removal operations at Ground Zero, later will tell the 9/11 Commission, “Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the wall from [WTC] Building 6.” (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=leslie_robertson)

And if you’re still not convinced, in the film Improbable Collapse, we get the testimony of Rudy Giuliani, then mayor New York City. Giuliani hasn’t said he saw the molten metal, but in the film (I believe he is testifying before the 9/11 Commission), he did say, “There were fires of 2,000F below the ground,” adding that fires would sometimes burst through and threaten those on the surface, including himself. “It was just by luck or the design of God that we weren’t killed.”

So, official story believers, where did it come from? This article does seek to prove any scientific analysis, it just seeks only to show that many credible people reported the same thing. The ONLY thing that makes any sense to me, and to the rest of the 9/11 Truth movement, is that this unexplained molten metal was a by-product of some kind of a controlled demolition. If there’s a more credible explanation, I haven’t heard it.


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4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Your research adds significant weight to the opinions and questions of legions of others who, like myself, question openly the "official" story of 9/11. The presence of molten metal hours, days or weeks after the event can not be explained by the data presented as "fact" in the sanctioned narrative.

I might add a personal question: Just how were the alleged hijackers identified, some within a few hours after the event? If such detailed information existed, how were these people able to pull off such an atrocity? If, indeed, that is what happened.

Names, ages, photographs (obviously not taken in an airport) appeared within hours of the event. I realize that our FBI and other intelligence services are pretty damned good, but really, within hours?

Anonymous said...

Excellent research. Truth and Shadows is a great blog. Craig McKee should be up for some kind of award.

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M. C. Bruecke said...

Dear Mr. Anonymous #1 & #2,

I recommend clicking on the links to Mr. McKee's source blog and leaving a comment there.

#1 asked just how were the alleged hijackers identified? The story we were fed was that a rental car was found with Koran's and instructions in Arabic on how to fly a 757 at one of the airports. A little bit too convenient. I find it interesting that no Arabic names were on the flight manifests, meaning they flew under assumed names, yet no correlation was made between those assumed names and their real Arabic names. I have yet to see airport security footage of all 19 hijackers going through security and their gates, something the govt could easily produce... assuming that it wasn't all just one big hoax from A to Z.

Before the dust had even settled from the towers, the corporate media was rabbiting on about (1) Osama bin Laden was the master mind and (2) jet impacts and fires from jet fuel & office furniture weakened steel and caused the towers to collapse.

They were prepared with photos at their finger tips, even though they shut down Able Danger and told FBI investigators to back off with both independently stumbled upon these suspicious characters in the months prior to Sept. Couldn't have the patsies be caught before their supposed crime.