Spiritual Science: DNA is influenced by words and frequencies

Vatic Note: We put this up on New Years Day and are revisiting this to remind us of why we are being attacked through food, water, air, radiation,  corexit, etc.  Did you ever ask yourselves why???  None of these are killers of an immediate nature, but what they are doing immediately is mutating our DNA.  Its attacking that which is the most powerful within us.    Its in line with what we believe are the real solutions to this problem and building a foundation of knowledge that will allow us to be fully equipped for a fair fight in this battle we are in with the evil ones.   THIS is an excellent write up for those of you who like to dig deep into a line of evidence for what is behind the curtain. In line with our series on this issue, we are starting to look at "WHY" the evil ones are collecting our DNA instead of trying to collect our guns? Why is so much effort being put into destroying, mutating and otherwise obliterating our DNA as humans, when the more apparent threat would be our unbelievable number of weapons we currently possess as a nation of minutemen??  PLEASE READ THE COMMENTS SECTION BELOW, ITS GOT AN INCREDIBLE COMMENT OF GREAT IMPORTANCE. 

There has to be a reason they are so afraid of our DNA that they are doing these horrors, as we have continually shown you, to our DNA, while ignoring our guns to some degree? Which is more dangerous to them and why? Well, on our journey down the rabbit hole, we came across this excellent write up on research conducted by Russian and other scientists that may well explain why... Remember the evil ones have attacked our food through GMO's and chemicals in our meat, drugs in our water supply, and finally DU poisoning on our soldiers who then bring it home to whole families. Most recently its Radiation, that I believe they are dumping on us with chemtrails rather than that which was carried over the ocean to us here.  WE gave you a whole list in previous posts about the attacks including vaccines, on our DNA and our brain.

Well this may well be the reason why. If words and frequencies can have such power then that is definitely a force greater than any weapon we may have created. Further, if true, THAN OUR SOLUTIONS LIE WITHIN THIS CONTEXT. As I have said before, WE ARE POWERFUL and wonderous, so lets be all that we can be and do all that we can do. Maybe if we do, they cannot counter it. All the money in the world cannot buy what we are, that we are reading below, so our wealth lies within us.... lets go mining and digging for that power and use it to stop all this and save the planet and all within it.  .

Spiritual Science: DNA is influenced by words and frequencies
By Grazyna Fosar and Franz Bludorf

DNA Can Be Influenced And Reprogrammed By Words And Frequencies Russian DNA Discoveries

The human DNA is a biological Internet and superior in many aspects to the artificial one. The latest Russian scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light/auras around people (namely spiritual masters), the mind’s influence on weather patterns and much more.

In addition, there is evidence for a whole new type of medicine in which DNA can be influenced and reprogrammed by words and frequencies WITHOUT cutting out and replacing single genes. Only 10% of our DNA is being used for building proteins. It is this subset of DNA that is of interest to western researchers and is being examined and categorized. The other 90% are considered "junk DNA. The Russian researchers, however, convinced that nature was not dumb, joined linguists and geneticists in a venture to explore those 90% of "junk DNA". Their results, findings and conclusions are simply revolutionary!

According to them, our DNA is not only responsible for the construction of our body but also serves as data storage and communication. The Russian linguists found that the genetic code, especially in the apparently useless 90%, follows the same rules as all our human languages. To this end they compared the rules of syntax (the way in which words are put together to form phrases and sentences), semantics (the study of meaning in language forms) and the basic rules of grammar.

They found that the alkalines of our DNA follow regular grammar and do have set rules just like our languages. So human languages did not appear coincidentally but are a reflection of our inherent DNA.

The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues also explored the vibrational behavior of the DNA. [For the sake of brevity I will give only a summary here. For further exploration please refer to the appendix at the end of this article.]

The bottom line was:

"Living chromosomes function just like solitonic/holographic computers using the endogenous DNA laser radiation."

This means that they managed, for example, to modulate certain frequency patterns onto a laser ray and with it influenced the DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself. Since the basic structure of DNA-alkaline pairs and of language (as explained earlier) are of the same structure, no DNA decoding is necessary. One can simply use words and sentences of the human language!

This, too, was experimentally proven! Living DNA substance (in living tissue, not in vitro) will always react to language-modulated laser rays and even to radio waves, if the proper frequencies are being used. This finally and scientifically explains why affirmations, autogenous training, hypnosis and the like can have such strong effects on humans and their bodies. It is entirely normal and natural for our DNA to react to language. While western researcher cut single genes from the DNA strands and insert them elsewhere, the Russians enthusiastically worked on devices that can influence the cellular metabolism through suitable modulated radio and light frequencies and thus repair genetic defects.

Garjajevâ´s research group succeeded in proving that with this method chromosomes damaged by x-rays for example can be repaired. They even captured information patterns of a particular DNA and transmitted it onto another, thus reprogramming cells to another genome. So they successfully transformed, for example, frog embryos to salamander embryos simply by transmitting the DNA information patterns! (VN: In the hands of the wrong people, this could be dangerous, it could also be why they are collecting the DNA while also trying to mutate it.)

This way the entire information was transmitted without any of the side effects or disharmonies encountered when cutting out and re-introducing single genes from the DNA. This represents an unbelievable, world-transforming revolution and sensation! All this by simply applying vibration and language instead of the archaic cutting-out procedure! This experiment points to the immense power of wave genetics, which obviously has a greater influence on the formation of organisms than the biochemical processes of alkaline sequences.

Esoteric and spiritual teachers have known for ages that our body is programmable by language, words and thought. This has now been scientifically proven and explained. Of course the frequency has to be correct. And this is why not everybody is equally successful or can do it with always the same strength. The individual person must work on the inner processes and maturity in order to establish a conscious communication with the DNA. The Russian researchers work on a method that is not dependent on these factors but will ALWAYS work, provided one uses the correct frequency.

But the higher developed an individual’s consciousness is, the less need is there for any type of device! One can achieve these results by oneself, and science will finally stop laughing at such ideas and will confirm and explain the results. And it doesn’t end there. The Russian scientists also found out that our DNA can cause disturbing patterns in the vacuum, thus producing magnetized wormholes! Wormholes are the microscopic equivalents of the so-called Einstein-Rosen bridges in the vicinity of black holes (left by burned-out stars).

These are tunnel connections between entirely different areas in the universe through which information can be transmitted outside of space and time. The DNA attracts these bits of information and passes them on to our consciousness. This process of hypercommunication is most effective in a state of relaxation. Stress, worries or a hyperactive intellect prevent successful hypercommunication or the information will be totally distorted and useless. In nature, hypercommunication has been successfully applied for millions of years. The organized flow of life in insect states proves this dramatically. Modern man knows it only on a much more subtle level as "intuition". But we, too, can regain full use of it.

An example from Nature: When a queen ant is spatially separated from her colony, building still continues fervently and according to plan. If the queen is killed, however, all work in the colony stops. No ant knows what to do. Apparently the queen sends the "building plans" also from far away via the group consciousness of her subjects. (VN:  now this fascinated me, it reminded me of the "100 Monkeys" theory with more and more evidence coming through as to the unknown power of human DNA in concert with the Dark Matter of the universe which is a whole other rabbit hole)   She can be as far away as she wants, as long as she is alive. In man hypercommunication is most often encountered when one suddenly gains access to information that is outside one’s knowledge base.

Such hypercommunication is then experienced as inspiration or intuition. The Italian composer Giuseppe Tartini for instance dreamt one night that a devil sat at his bedside playing the violin. The next morning Tartini was able to note down the piece exactly from memory, he called it the Devil’s Trill Sonata.

For years, a 42-year old male nurse dreamt of a situation in which he was hooked up to a kind of knowledge CD-ROM. Verifiable knowledge from all imaginable fields was then transmitted to him that he was able to recall in the morning. There was such a flood of information that it seemed a whole encyclopedia was transmitted at night. The majority of facts were outside his personal knowledge base and reached technical details about which he knew absolutely nothing.

When hypercommunication occurs, one can observe in the DNA as well as in the human being special phenomena. The Russian scientists irradiated DNA samples with laser light. On screen a typical wave pattern was formed. When they removed the DNA sample, the wave pattern did not disappear, it remained. Many control experiments showed that the pattern still came from the removed sample, whose energy field apparently remained by itself. This effect is now called phantom DNA effect.

It is surmised that energy from outside of space and time still flows through the activated wormholes after the DNA was removed. The side effect encountered most often in hypercommunication also in human beings are inexplicable electromagnetic fields in the vicinity of the persons concerned.

Electronic devices like CD players and the like can be irritated and cease to function for hours. When the electromagnetic field slowly dissipates, the devices function normally again. Many healers and psychics know this effect from their work. The better the atmosphere and the energy, the more frustrating it is that the recording device stops functioning and recording exactly at that moment. And repeated switching on and off after the session does not restore function yet, but next morning all is back to normal. Perhaps this is reassuring to read for many, as it has nothing to do with them being technically inept, it means they are good at hypercommunication.

In their book "Vernetzte Intelligenz" (Networked Intelligence), Grazyna Fosar and Franz Bludorf explain these connections precisely and clearly.

The authors also quote sources presuming that in earlier times humanity had been, just like the animals, very strongly connected to the group consciousness and acted as a group. To develop and experience individuality we humans however had to forget hypercommunication almost completely.

Now that we are fairly stable in our individual consciousness, we can create a new form of group consciousness, namely one, in which we attain access to all information via our DNA without being forced or remotely controlled about what to do with that information. We now know that just as on the internet our DNA can feed its proper data into the network, can call up data from the network and can establish contact with other participants in the network.

Remote healing, telepathy or "remote sensing" about the state of relatives etc. can thus be explained. Some animals know also from afar when their owners plan to return home. That can be freshly interpreted and explained via the concepts of group consciousness and hypercommunication. Any collective consciousness cannot be sensibly used over any period of time without a distinctive individuality. Otherwise we would revert to a primitive herd instinct that is easily manipulated.

Hypercommunication in the new millennium means something quite different: Researchers think that if humans with full individuality would regain group consciousness, they would have a god-like power to create, alter and shape things on Earth! AND humanity is collectively moving toward such a group consciousness of the new kind. Fifty percent of today’s children will be problem children as soon as the go to school. The system lumps everyone together and demands adjustment. But the individuality of today’s children is so strong that that they refuse this adjustment and giving up their idiosyncrasies in the most diverse ways.

At the same time more and more clairvoyant children are born [see the book "China’s Indigo Children" by Paul Dong or the chapter about Indigos in my book "Nutze die taeglichen Wunder"(Make Use of the Daily Wonders)]. Something in those children is striving more and more towards the group consciousness of the new kind, and it will no longer be suppressed! . As a rule weather, for example, is rather difficult to influence by a single individual. But it may be influenced by a group consciousness (nothing new to some tribes doing it in their rain dances). Weather is strongly influenced by Earth resonance frequencies, the so-called Schumann frequencies. But those same frequencies are also produced in our brains, and when many people synchronize their thinking or individuals (spiritual masters, for instance) focus their thoughts in a laser-like fashion, then it is scientifically speaking not at all surprising if they can thus influence weather.

Researchers in group consciousness have formulated the theory of Type I civilizations. A humanity that developed a group consciousness of the new kind would have neither environmental problems nor scarcity of energy. For if it were to use its mental power as a unified civilization, it would have control of the energies of its home planet as a natural consequence. And that includes all natural catastrophes!!! A theoretical Type II civilization would even be able to control all energies of their home galaxy.

In my book "Nutze die taeglichen Wunder", I have described an example of this: Whenever a great many people focus their attention or consciousness on something similar like Christmas time, football world championship or the funeral of Lady Diana in England then certain random number generators in computers start to deliver ordered numbers instead of the random ones. An ordered group consciousness creates order in its whole surroundings!!!


When a great number of people get together very closely, potentials of violence also dissolve. It looks as if here, too, a kind of humanitarian consciousness of all humanity is created. At the Love Parade, for example, where every year about one million of young people congregate, there has never been any brutal riots as they occur for instance at sports events. The name of the event alone is not seen as the cause here. The result of an analysis indicated rather that the number of people was TOO GREAT to allow a tipping over to violence.

To come back to the DNA: It apparently is also an organic superconductor that can work at normal body temperature. Artificial superconductors require extremely low temperatures of between 200 and 140°C to function.

As one recently learned, all superconductors are able to store light and thus information. This is a further explanation of how the DNA can store information. There is another phenomenon linked to DNA and wormholes. Normally, these super small wormholes are highly unstable and are maintained only for the tiniest fractions of a second. Under certain conditions (read about it in the Fosar/Bludorf book above) stable wormholes can organize themselves which then form distinctive vacuum domains in which, for example, gravity can transform into electricity. Vacuum domains are self-radiant balls of ionized gas that contain considerable amounts of energy.

There are regions in Russia where such radiant balls appear very often. Following the ensuing confusion the Russians started massive research programs leading finally to some of the discoveries mentions above. Many people know vacuum domains as shiny balls in the sky. The attentive look at them in wonder and ask themselves, what they could be. I thought once: "Hello up there. If you happen to be a UFO, fly in a triangle." And suddenly, the light balls moved in a triangle. Or they shot across the sky like ice hockey pucks. They accelerated from zero to crazy speeds while sliding gently across the sky.

One is left gawking and I have, as many others, too, thought them to be UFOs. Friendly ones, apparently, as they flew in triangles just to please me. Now the Russians found in the regions where vacuum domains appear often that sometimes fly as balls of light from the ground upwards into the sky, that these balls can be guided by thought. One has found out since that vacuum domains emit waves of low frequency as they are also produced in our brains. And because of this similarity of waves they are able to react to our thoughts.

To run excitedly into one that is on ground level might not be such a great idea, because those balls of light can contain immense energies and are able to mutate our genes. They can, they don’t necessarily have to, one has to say. For many spiritual teachers also produce such visible balls or columns of light in deep meditation or during energy work which trigger decidedly pleasant feelings and do not cause any harm. Apparently this is also dependent on some inner order and on the quality and provenance of the vacuum domain.

There are some spiritual teachers (the young Englishman Ananda, for example) with whom nothing is seen at first, but when one tries to take a photograph while they sit and speak or meditate in hypercommunication, one gets only a picture of a white cloud on a chair. In some Earth healing projects such light effects also appear on photographs.

Simply put, these phenomena have to do with gravity and anti-gravity forces that are also exactly described in the book and with ever more stable wormholes and hyper-communication and thus with energies from outside our time and space structure. Earlier generations that got in contact with such hypercommunication experiences and visible vacuum domains were convinced that an angel had appeared before them.

And we cannot be too sure to what forms of consciousness we can get access when using hypercommunication. Not having scientific proof for their actual existence (people having had such experiences do NOT all suffer from hallucinations) does not mean that there is no metaphysical background to it. We have simply made another giant step towards understanding our reality.

Official science also knows of gravity anomalies on Earth (that contribute to the formation of vacuum domains), but only of ones of below one percent. But recently gravity anomalies have been found of between three and four percent. One of these places is Rocca di Papa, south of Rome (exact location in the book "Vernetzte Intelligenz" plus several others). Round objects of all kinds, from balls to full buses, roll uphill. But the stretch in Rocca di Papa is rather short, and defying logic sceptics still flee to the theory of optical illusion (which it cannot be due to several features of the location).

All informations are from the book "Vernetzte Intelligenz" von Grazyna Fosar und Franz Bludorf, ISBN 3930243237, summarized and commented by Baerbel. The book is unfortunately only available in German so far. You can reach the authors here:

[ http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/  ]
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Alexander BAckman said...

Beautifully expressed! Now I understand what has happened to me. Trained by monks at 22 in 1994 in hypertransference, millions of pieces of information imprinted in my DNA in 19 hours non-stop. Through the years, my DNA started to decode the data and manifest through me. First physical dimensional jump happened in 1996 to parallel universe or higher dimension. Then occurred 5 more times through the years. All this done through stillness of the mind and generatinf the frequencies in resonance and synchrony with the Universe. in 1997 my genius went to hypergenius, became obsessed with ideas far too advanced in linguistics. As a language professor, I developed after 12 years a language teaching system based on imprints trhough frequency in the brain to input high amounts of data to teach English into students. Noy, I studied sound engineering and I am able to produce binaural waves with information into students. My method is based on iconographic resonance. Just wanted to share that this document and what the Russians have done validates my own personal experience.


Alexander Backman, Ensenada Mexico, abba@alexanderbackman.com

Vatic Master said...

Wow, what a great story. I missed this earlier because I am overwhelmed since the blog has gotten way bigger than I can really handle without working 24/7.... so I miss jewels like this.

This is a wonderful story and supports what we have been saying all this time and trying to learn to practice as well, I have one foot in this paradigm and the other over in the new paradigm coming in, and that was so I could do this work on both sides. Thanks for reinforcing the side I want to end up on. And now you told me how to do it.

Have you made a dvd or video or CD on the download for others to use??? If so I would be interested in knowing more about it. Thanks.

Vatic Master said...

Wow, what a great story. I missed this earlier because I am overwhelmed since the blog has gotten way bigger than I can really handle without working 24/7.... so I miss jewels like this.

This is a wonderful story and supports what we have been saying all this time and trying to learn to practice as well, I have one foot in this paradigm and the other over in the new paradigm coming in, and that was so I could do this work on both sides. Thanks for reinforcing the side I want to end up on. And now you told me how to do it.

Have you made a dvd or video or CD on the download for others to use??? If so I would be interested in knowing more about it. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Dear Vatic,

Thank you for running this again. I had missed it the first time around.

Many are working at that tipping point, the hundredth monkey... After reading your entry, I ask that people once again listen to "We are the World - 25 - for Haiti" - Listen to the lyrics in a new way - there are wonderful word clues... And, don't donate via electronic buttons, it only feeds the cabal. Donate in another way.

LOVE 2011 - Let's get the frequency wave going!!!


Vatic said...

Thanks anonymous. That was wonderful. I agree, DO NOT DONATE THROUGH THE CLINTON FOUNDATION, its a rip off and now they have introduced disease into the population through UN troops on site. So the haitians are like us, definitely under attack and any help we can give should go through legit sources and the Red Cross is not one of them.

We are powerful and we can prevail. Watch the rest of the ones we hve put up for this holiday special and go back and visit the 12/25 often. Through our change from feeling helpless, fearful and angry, to feeling POWERFUL AND as Tsorian said "WE ARE MARVELOUS BEINGS LIVING ORDINARY LIVES", and knowing that, can change how we interact with our world and change it.

The evil ones can't. They have embrassed the low vibration energy and thus their power is limited to this three dimensional reality but ours is not limited. SO OPEN UP THOSE HEARTS AND FOCUS ON THE WORLD YOU WANT TO SEE AND SEND LOVE TO EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD.

If you are Christian remember, Christ said ".... he came to give us the two greatest commandments, LOVE God with your whole heart and LOVE your neighbor as yourself. He place LOVE as the basis for the TWO GREATEST COMMANDMENTS AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD GIVE and focus on and peace as an expression of that love.

Thanks for reading this and help spread the word.

Roza Mira said...

"Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law: I said you are gods? " -- John 10:34

"I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High. " Psalm 82:6

An ancient Hermetic precept states: “Know ye not that ye are gods” and is one of the pillars of the Ancient Mysteries and a persistent message of man’s own divinity in many ancient texts, including the Bible.

The only ones that don't grasp this concept are the fundamentalist christians, and the Catholics also, I daresay.

Since humans are in fact gods, and made so by God, and said so by Jesus, if it is understood that the Earth has limited resources, why should not rational steps be taken in the form of teaching contraception, and allowing abortion to be legal? After all, whose business is it anyway, but of the mother who might wish abortion? And if it is diagnosed that a mother will give birth to a badly deformed child, like an encephalic child, or any other terrible disease, why presume it is in the child's interest to force it to be born, and Society bear the cost for its lifelong medical problems? What of rape, and forcing a mother to give birth? All of these things are, at bottom, forced birth. A real nice basis for a "christian" world, said with irony.

Also, is it not rational to begin the process of acceptance of assisted suicide for those who wish to die with dignity, rather than laying in a bed suffering from a disease or diseases that are well passed curing?

And if Science can weed out destructive DNA and implement better DNA qualities, why do the christians roar if fear?

If God made us gods, we should be able to have dominion. Else why make us gods?

It's not the bad elites trying to keep you from this knowledge, it is the christians themselves. I think you are a christian, so I hope you can understand these points.

Vatic said...

If we lived in a different world than you describe, I would agree with you, but we don't, right now psychopaths at high levels with trillions of our dollars can do damage the likes of which we have never seen in the history of this planet.

They are doing things right now as we speak that were death penalty offenses back in WW II. So be careful what you ask for, becuase who is going to decide who dies and who lives??? You? I would not mind if it were you, but it will be the rothschilds, gates, rockefellers, etc, and they are psychos of the worse kind, RICH and powerful and they hate us cattle.

So I would be prudent and wait before doing anymore social engineering becuase you think your a god. Am I a christian? I don't know, I am a spiritualist and believe there is a much higher power then myself, so maybe so, I am not jewish or muslim, so classify me as you will.

I would not be putting all this on the blog if I were a fundamentalist, you can be sure of that. lol

Roza Mira said...

No one is suggesting, I hope, that because one believes one should have the right to have an abortion, or assisted suicide, or research the DNA genetic elimination of hereditary disease that one does not believe in a higher power?

This is far from the case, and is an argument perpetrated by religious fanatics and the basically ignorant who listen to them. I am not saying you are one of these -- but only to point out you made the presumption that those who claim their rights to abortion, etc., somehow translates into them "not" believing in a higher power.

But DNA frequencies are, in fact, being raised. And this is why there are those who insist upon their rights ("know ye not ye are gods") to abort, or to have assisted suicide. I thought I heard on the news that in 2011 doctors will be reimbursed for setting aside time to discuss with their patients end of life issues. One will begin to hear the great fear-mongering of the religious Right and their followers of "death panels".

Of course assisted suicide has a way to go, beating a path through the religious fanatics.

As to these individual choices, some, who do not fear the future, will have these rights manifest.

These are small rights, really, at the individual level. It is only the fear-mongerers that get in the way.

All these things are not 'social engineering'. Abortion and euthanasia should be rights, and it would be in the interest of all humanity to eliminate all hereditary disease.

People who are aware of John 10:34 and Psalms 82:6 do not "think" they are gods. This is an attempt to spin what the ancient words say.

And, as I said: "ye are gods" is one of the pillars of the Ancient Mysteries and a persistent message of man’s own divinity in many ancient texts, including the Bible.

So, when all is said and done, if these things do not being to manifest now, at the individual choice level, then when?

When does "society" know when 'all the facts are in' in order to proceed in any direction? And why should it be the exclusive domain of the Judeo-Christian myth-belief system to decide 'when all the facts are in'?

You see....things are changing and the DNA frequencies have been raised high enough to override this Judeo-Christian myth-belief system.

A lot of things were done back in WWII, I'm sure. In that era, no doubt whatever bad things you refer to were bad, I've no doubt. But we are not in that era, nor is anyone saying we should do as the nazis did. And this is all besides the point for today's time.

On another level, as to the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Gates and whoever else, since the DNA frequencies have already been raised some time now, we see now there are a lot of researchers on their tail and connecting the dots. And they do seem to be doing financial damage, as does the local governments with their fines and fees, and every other entity that can get their hands in everyone else's pockets.

Vatic said...

I don't mind at all discussing what I have said, but you said this ".....but only to point out you made the presumption that those who claim their rights to abortion, etc., somehow translates into them "not" believing in a higher power." And I was scatching my head.

Are you a little bit too anti-religious? please show me where I said that or even implied that so that we can then discuss it, but since I didn't even think it, its hard for me to fathom where in the world you got that? And further, I made it clear I was "spiritual" and never said a word about being "religious". So its hard to have a discussion when such gross misunderstandings occur. now,it appears you have a preconcieved idea about me or what I believe and its really scewed way out of wack and so I am not certain this is going to work out here.

Lets agree to ask first if we are going to make assumptions, then we can discuss and come to an understanding. Only then do I believe such further discussion would be productive.

I read your whole thing and its like you never read what I wrote. You never addressed any of my explanations nor did you even indicate if you even understood the seriousness of our plight right now. You want to talk about two things that deeply benefit the scumbags killing our country.

1. Eugenics, the death of useless feeders like old people and handicapped and unwanted babies from irresponsible people who won't take accountability for thier actions.

2. Slurring, slandering and lumping a whole group of millions of people into one category and then slashing and burning them as if they were all exactly the same and of one mind.

That reminds me of those on the right that say all dems are communist leeches looking for a free lunch and both of you are wrong. Here is what we all are.

AMERICANS....GOT THAT? We better damn well stick together united on the things that we share in common and fight over the rest later once we have saved our nation. Or don't you think that is an important issue???? Are you just in such a hurry to get people dead? Do you believe in involuntary depopulation? Who should decide who dies??? Kissinger??? Gates??? Rothschild??? rockefeller???


Vatic said...

I forgot to ask, what is the next step in this utopia you think you have found??? As a god, heaven forbid..... involuntary sterilization?

That is a crime against humanity to do that? Its also a crime to abort someones child with vaccines made for just that purpose which is what the gates foundation has funded and promoted and that was once not too long ago, a crime against humanity.

While we are making assumptions let me ask you. Do you agree with Kissinger that we should clear the entire continent of africa of all the blacks?? Just asking because in 1974 that is exactly what he proposed and not too long after that AIDS, THE BIOWEAPON OF CHOICE FOR THE ELITE SET, BECAME THE SCOURAGE OF AFRICA KILLING AND MAIMING AND HARMING AFRICANS ALL OVER THE CONTINENT

If they succeed, then debeers won't have them to contend with anymore wanting income from their natural resources being stolen out of the ground of their poor countries, and if they are all dead, then the wealthy elite and khazars can simply take the land and own all those resources without all those pesky blacks demanding their share of the proceeds in order to support their nation. Sorr, I just get frustrated when people narrow in on small narrow targeted issues and neglect to bother to see the big picture.

These people are serious about reducing the worlds population by 92% so they can control them with ease and not be threatened with revolt or resistance.

Rosa Mira said...

Vatic said:

"I don't mind at all discussing what I have said, but you said this ".....but only to point out you made the presumption that those who claim their rights to abortion, etc., somehow translates into them "not" believing in a higher power." And I was scatching my head."

I brought out my point only because it seemed IMPLIED that you believe those who want the right to abortion, etc., somehow do not believe in a "higher power" because I also brought up John 10:34 and Psalm 82:6. You said "...and believe there is a much higher power then myself, " which had a sense of implying I did not have such a belief.

There seemed to be an implication in what you said. You seemed to be implying.

In other words, with words the Meaning (of what someone is saying) often lurks just below the
surface such that one needs to look for it, but anyone can (tentatively) find it.

Often, it will not even be present when one is looking at and reading words, and the Meaning will strike the observer only in retrospect, when the observer is no longer an observer, but a 'recollector'.

I am not looking to get into a war of words here. I sense a kind of extreme reaction to something in the things I say, and these kinds of reactions are a result of the traumatic consequences of the breakdown of communication in contemporary society and where such things lead. Meaningless words (at this juncture) are the cause of violence not only against individuals, but against language itself and the society it helped hold together.

So I will have to refrain from 'giving my opinions' on loaded questions, if you don't mind.

On another level, I certainly agree with what you say about the Rothschilds, etc. And as I said, the DNA frequencies have been raised high enough now that researchers are able to keep tabs and write their articles about them, enlightening the rest of us.

Vatic said...

So you made an assumption about what I believe based on what I said "IMPLIED", not stated, not misunderstood, but Implied, and then you used the next phrase ".....which had a sense of implying" which isn't even as solid as implying, it was a "sense" of "Implying" which is even more nebulous.

What happens when you interpret based on a "sense and imply" is that you simply do not know what I believe and thus waste a lot of time talking to me as if it were true. Its not true. I fully explained what I believe, and you still have not addressed any of it yet. This is my second time not addressing it.

Further you said I had an "extreme" reaction. really??? And which part of my reaction was extreme??? LOL I know, its the part where I said "maybe you should ask what someone believes and that would solve the problem, no guessing, no sense of.... or implying, but out and out asking. Do you consider that extreme? Words mean something and that is why we use them.

Either get to know the meaning of our words or learn to comprehend the meaning of the words other use. You still have not addressed one single thing I responded to in my first response to you nor in my second response to you.

You are the only preoccpied with who said what. I said what I had to say and then I moved on into the full explanation of what I do believe and did a thorough job outlining everything, none of which you addressed one way or the other.

So your assumption that I am religious is fully undocumented by anything I have written or you have seen. So, until that can be documented lets assume that I am not religious and go from there.

I addressed by concerns about your suggestions about the deaths of the useless feeders and you have not responded, so go back and read both responses to you and try to address my concerns, if you would be so kind. Thanks.

Maybe YOU need to take responsibility for your inadequate communications skills and that way there will be no misunderstanding.

Rosa Mira said...

I would like to point out that you are the one using loaded words, and apparently assuming *I* believe in Eugenics, useless eaters, and all the other loaded and trigger words whereby you attempt to entrap.

You seem to have a lock-step in this entire belief system you've created, an amalgam of conspiracy theories, new age ideas, "the country's going to ruin", and all the rest of it. Understanding about the floating conspiracy theories out there, new age ideas, and patriot ideas are all fine. The problem seems to be that when one differs, even ever so slightly, from the GROUPTHINK, then rabid accusations of being pawns of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers come out.

Some of us still see a deeper picture, and are not afraid to try to understand "the other side" and see its validity. Out of all of these contradicting strands, WE can still say with utter Reason:

"Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law: I said you are gods? " -- John 10:34

"I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High. " Psalm 82:6

You can interpret the "WE" as you wish.

Vatic said...

Roza, look, we are simply on two different wave lengths, and there is no reason to continue down this path. If you do not want truth, simply pass on it and do not prepare. Its that simple.

There is no reason to fight over our inability to communicate on the same wave length either. So lets just pass on it and you can pass on this blog and ignore all the conspiracy theories on here and of course don't look at all the proofs either, pass on those too.

This blog is for the serious investigator and for those who "know" what is coming, so please if you are not in that category, there are a gazzillion other blogs whom I am sure you could communicate with easily. I believe if I took the time, given what you have told me about your beliefs I could certainly connect you to them. Stormfront is one. I suggest you check that one out since they are very much into what you are.

Ok have a great day and a wonderful 2011. Good bye, it was nice trying to talk with you.

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