Vatic Note: There is definitely a conflict between the two sides about what happened and who did what to who. Both sides of any conflict leading to WW III is manned by leaders who are loyal to the khazar international bankers. This is exactly what both sides did in WW II.
We did a blog exposing that fact. Churchill, FDR, and other western leaders were in cahoots with the Rothschild bankers and Hitler to start WW II. They succeeded because the press promoted and set the tone for the conflict and of course it was started by both sides, using collusion on what, today, we would call terrorist attacks.
Since our side has already been busted and exposed, now its Russia and turkeys turn to be the bad guys and we are to buy it and split the rest of us between the two sides. I wondered how they would attack our unity and divide us. Now we know. But first let me give you some facts:
1. The Khazars are part Turkish from when they migrated into Turkey, then after several generations they migrated into Mongolia, and ended up in Khazaria where most of the khazar Jews are from, who now are the violent settlers from Russia and eastern Europe, into Israel and who chased the REAL Israeli's out of Israel and they had to seek asylum in both London and New York where they have regularly protested against Zionist, Rothschild, Khazar controlled Israel.
2. Obama is a Dual Israeli Citizen, and I suspect he is khazar. There are 32 dual israeli citizens working in the White House and the Pentagon, along with Dept of Homeland Security who are controlled by the khazars. The first Secretary's of Homeland SEcurity were dual Israeli citizens and one of them was a Rothschild banker. That was Paulson, and then Chertoff.
The point of all of this is "they lied" and now they are lying again. When will we ever wake up and smell the treason that has cost our nation millions of dead sons and daughters and Europe the same. Its time we stop it and do so now.
Erdogan, Obama Lied, No Surprise There to Anyone
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/25/erdogan-obama-lied-no-surprise-there-to-anyone/
By GPD, Veterans Today, on November 25, 2015
Rescued pilot of the Russian Air Force’s Su-24 jet, Captain Konstantin Murakhtin, center, answers journalists’ questions at Khmeimim Air Base in Latakia. © Dmitriy Vinogradov / Sputnik
Murakhtin was extracted in a 12-hour joint operation by Russian and Syrian special forces, in which a Russian Marine died.
https://www.rt.com/news/323343-turkey-un-syria-russian-plane/
One of the planes then left the Turkish airspace, while “plane two was fired at while in Turkish airspace by Turkish F-16s,” Cevik allegedly wrote.
This provided ground for Turkish forces to attack the Russian warplanes in accordance with the new rules of military engagement adopted in 2012 over the deterioration of the situation in Syria.
“Following the violation, plane one left Turkish national airspace. Plane two was fired at while in Turkish airspace by Turkish F-16s performing air combat patrolling in that area,” the leaked letter said. “Plane two crashed onto the Syrian side of the Turkish-Syrian border.”
Russia denies these claims, saying its plane was downed in Syrian airspace, where Russia is conducting an air operation against Islamic State and other terrorists.
Russia’s General Staff said that airfield radar at the Hmeymim base showed that it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber.
Vladimir Putin called Ankara’s actions “a stab in the back delivered by accomplices of the terrorists,” adding that the incident will have “severe consequences” for relations between Russia and Turkey.
There are conflicting reports on the fate of the two pilots from the downed Su-24 warplane.
The Turkmen militia, fighting the Syrian government in the area, claimed to have killed both pilots as they were parachuting from their jet after it was hit.
The Free Syrian Army affiliate, the 10th Brigade in the Coast also said that it is in possession of the corpse of one of the Russian pilots and is searching for another one.
The General Staff said that, according to preliminary data, one of the Su-24 pilots died after being fired at from the ground, while a rescue operation for his partner is underway.
However, Reuters cited a Turkish government official, who said that both pilots are alive and Ankara is working to retrieve them from the rebels.
The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
We did a blog exposing that fact. Churchill, FDR, and other western leaders were in cahoots with the Rothschild bankers and Hitler to start WW II. They succeeded because the press promoted and set the tone for the conflict and of course it was started by both sides, using collusion on what, today, we would call terrorist attacks.
Since our side has already been busted and exposed, now its Russia and turkeys turn to be the bad guys and we are to buy it and split the rest of us between the two sides. I wondered how they would attack our unity and divide us. Now we know. But first let me give you some facts:
1. The Khazars are part Turkish from when they migrated into Turkey, then after several generations they migrated into Mongolia, and ended up in Khazaria where most of the khazar Jews are from, who now are the violent settlers from Russia and eastern Europe, into Israel and who chased the REAL Israeli's out of Israel and they had to seek asylum in both London and New York where they have regularly protested against Zionist, Rothschild, Khazar controlled Israel.
2. Obama is a Dual Israeli Citizen, and I suspect he is khazar. There are 32 dual israeli citizens working in the White House and the Pentagon, along with Dept of Homeland Security who are controlled by the khazars. The first Secretary's of Homeland SEcurity were dual Israeli citizens and one of them was a Rothschild banker. That was Paulson, and then Chertoff.
The point of all of this is "they lied" and now they are lying again. When will we ever wake up and smell the treason that has cost our nation millions of dead sons and daughters and Europe the same. Its time we stop it and do so now.
Erdogan, Obama Lied, No Surprise There to Anyone
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/25/erdogan-obama-lied-no-surprise-there-to-anyone/
By GPD, Veterans Today, on November 25, 2015
Rescued pilot of the Russian Air Force’s Su-24 jet, Captain Konstantin Murakhtin, center, answers journalists’ questions at Khmeimim Air Base in Latakia. © Dmitriy Vinogradov / Sputnik
The navigator of the Russian
Su-24 shot down by a Turkish fighter jet on Tuesday insists that his
plane did not cross into Turkey’s airspace, and says he was given no
visual or radio warning before being fired at.
“It’s impossible that we violated their airspace even for a second,” Konstantin Murakhtin told Russia’s Rossiya 1 channel. “We were flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters in completely clear weather, and I had total control of our flight path throughout.”
As well as denying Ankara’s assertions that the
plane was in Turkey’s airspace, Murakhtin also refuted Turkish
officials’ claims that the pilots were warned repeatedly.
“In actual fact there were no
warnings at all. Neither through the radio, nor visually, so we did not
at any point adjust our course. You need to understand the difference
in speed between a tactical bomber like a Su-24, and that of the F16. If
they wanted to warn us, they could have sat on our wing,” said Murakhtin, who is currently recuperating at Russia’s airbase in Latakia, northern Syria.
“As it was, the missile hit the back of our plane out of nowhere. We didn’t even have time to make an evasive maneuver.”
READ MORE: Leaked Ankara UN letter claims Su-24’s ‘air space violation’ lasted 17 seconds
Substance of letter in brackets at the end of this blog.
As the plane was hit and went down in Syria, the two pilots ejected.
Captain Sergey Rumyantsev was killed, with a rebel Turkmen brigade
claiming they shot him to death while he was still parachuting.Substance of letter in brackets at the end of this blog.
Murakhtin was extracted in a 12-hour joint operation by Russian and Syrian special forces, in which a Russian Marine died.
The 39-year-old airman, who won the Top Navigator
award at Russia’s biggest military flying competition last year, says he
will ask to return to front-line service as soon as he is declared fit.
“I must ‘pay back’ the debt for my captain,” said Murakhtin.
___________________________________________________________________________________https://www.rt.com/news/323343-turkey-un-syria-russian-plane/
Leaked Ankara UN letter claims Su-24's ‘air space violation’ lasted 17 seconds
One of the planes then left the Turkish airspace, while “plane two was fired at while in Turkish airspace by Turkish F-16s,” Cevik allegedly wrote.
This provided ground for Turkish forces to attack the Russian warplanes in accordance with the new rules of military engagement adopted in 2012 over the deterioration of the situation in Syria.
“Following the violation, plane one left Turkish national airspace. Plane two was fired at while in Turkish airspace by Turkish F-16s performing air combat patrolling in that area,” the leaked letter said. “Plane two crashed onto the Syrian side of the Turkish-Syrian border.”
Russia denies these claims, saying its plane was downed in Syrian airspace, where Russia is conducting an air operation against Islamic State and other terrorists.
Russia’s General Staff said that airfield radar at the Hmeymim base showed that it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber.
Vladimir Putin called Ankara’s actions “a stab in the back delivered by accomplices of the terrorists,” adding that the incident will have “severe consequences” for relations between Russia and Turkey.
There are conflicting reports on the fate of the two pilots from the downed Su-24 warplane.
The Turkmen militia, fighting the Syrian government in the area, claimed to have killed both pilots as they were parachuting from their jet after it was hit.
The Free Syrian Army affiliate, the 10th Brigade in the Coast also said that it is in possession of the corpse of one of the Russian pilots and is searching for another one.
The General Staff said that, according to preliminary data, one of the Su-24 pilots died after being fired at from the ground, while a rescue operation for his partner is underway.
However, Reuters cited a Turkish government official, who said that both pilots are alive and Ankara is working to retrieve them from the rebels.
Turkey's statement: Claims Russia violated airspace for just "17 seconds" with very slow 243 miles/hour jet.
The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
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