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2012-11-28

UPDATE: 3:55pm - Wall Street Group Behind Poll Supporting Social Security Cuts

UPDATE: 3:55 pm 11/28
This below is a letter from Sen. Bernie Sanders to all Democrats  and is applicable to everyone.  In some cases we must stand together united and this is one of those times.  Please read this letter about the intended cuts to social security and medicare and how very  solvent the social security trust fund currently is compared to all other depts of government.  

I was surprised to read the stats below.  I guess the bankers want another bail out and can't have it unless they cut social security.  Well, lets finally massively pressure our congressmen and see if it does any good and if it doesn't then you will not forget next election time and we will know that we have been occupied by a foreign enemy.   SO CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND SENATOR NOW AND MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY. WALL STREET HAS GOTTEN A FREE WALK ON MASSIVE LEVELS OF CRIME ALREADY, NO MORE.... ITS TIME TO REALLY TAKE A STAND AND PRESSURE OBAMA TO START CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST THESE PEOPLE. 
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Here is Sen Sanders letter: 


As I'm sure you are aware, there is currently a major effort being waged by Wall Street CEOs, Republicans and some Democrats to do deficit reduction on the backs of the middle class and working families.

This could mean, among other things, significant cuts to vital programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

President Obama and the Democrats won a decisive victory on Election Day. The people have spoken and the Democratic Leadership must make it very clear that they intend to stand with the middle class and working families of our country, and not the Big Money interests. This means that in the coming weeks and months the Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done in a way that is fair -- and not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

As Congress reconvenes and addresses the so-called "fiscal cliff," I have outlined several ways that we can do deficit reduction without cutting the programs that working families rely on most:

  • At a time when the wealthiest people in our country are doing phenomenally well, we must eliminate the Bush tax cuts favoring the top 2 percent.
  • At a time when corporate profits are soaring, we must end the absurd tax policy that allows about one-quarter of large, profitable corporations to pay nothing in federal income taxes. (VN: I would not have necessarily favored this, but these corps are sending our jobs overseas to slave labor countries, which just increases their profits to above what is considered by even small businesses as reasonable.  They need to support the country/system they benefit from.) 
  • At a time when the federal treasury is losing over $100 billion annually because the wealthy and large corporations are stashing their money in tax havens in the Cayman Islands and elsewhere, we must pass real tax reform that ends this outrage.
  • At a time when we spend almost as much as the rest of the world combined on defense, we must cut defense spending. There is also waste in other governmental agencies which must be eliminated.  (VN: We can solve all this if we prosecute the man and reclaim the funds, who stole $2.7 trillion from the pentagon budget and then we would not have to cut it. He just so happens to be a khazar zionist, gee, what a surprise. )
Now, is the time to hold Democrats accountable and ensure that we do deficit reduction in a way that is fair, while also protecting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Please stand with me in fighting for a deficit reduction plan which is fair -- Sign the petition calling on Congress to let the Bush tax cuts expire, while protecting vital programs.

Let me be clear. Social Security has not contributed one penny to the deficit because it is funded independently by the payroll tax. In fact, the Social Security Trust Fund today, according to the Social Security Administration, has a $2.7 trillion surplus and can pay 100 percent of all benefits owed to every eligible American for the next 21 years. Social Security, as well as Medicare and Medicaid, must be protected.  (VN: we paid in, and we have it coming, its not a taxpayer funded benefit.  Give us our lump sum, with interest, and cash flow discount value of the contributions and I would gladly take my share and walk away.  In fact if they cut it, lets do a class action law suit over it and go after our revalued lump sum each that paid into the fund.)

Poll after poll shows that the American people want to see deficit reduction done in a way that is fair. They do not want to see cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid while millionaires, billionaires and large corporations continue to receive huge tax breaks.

In my view, if the Republicans and some democrats continue to play an obstructionist role, the president should get out of the Oval Office and travel the country. If he does that, I believe that he will find that there is no state in the country, including those that are very red, where people believe that we should give huge tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires, while cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Right now, the Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the end of this year. That means the only way that Republicans and some democrats can extend tax breaks for the wealthy and cut vital programs is if Democrats let them.

Sadly, virtually all Republicans and some Democrats are too willing to do deficit reduction in a way that hurts those who are already hurting.

Don't let them win. The Bush tax cuts must be allowed to expire. Please sign the petition today.

I look forward to working with President Obama and all members of Congress to do deficit reduction in a way that finally asks the wealthiest people in our country to pay their fair share, and that recognizes the needs of working families.

Despite the fact that we just won a major electoral victory over Big Money, Wall Street CEOs, big corporations and the millionaires and billionaires are not giving up. Defeating them will take a major grass-roots effort with millions of people getting involved in this fight.

Please, stand with me today. Thank you, -Bernie
Senator Bernie Sanders, Vermont

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***Fund raising report.  Due to recent donations, we are now needing only $75, and down to only 2 days till the first. I truly want to say that I have enjoyed these past three years working for the truth and working with Bruecke and all those that contacted us through our email and offered so much that contributed to this blog.  Its an experience I had never had before, and one which I have enjoyed tremendously, even with all the trench warfare that has gone on.   

The only way they could get us to stop was to make sure we could not pay the bills, so that is why I have had to come to you with hat in hand and ask for help.  I realize we are all in the same boat, so they were not wrong when they first decided to crash the economy before doing their dirty deeds.  Its working.   Its an effective way to squash dissent and truth.  So, lets not give them what they want.  Please, if you can afford it contribute to the right at the donation button and lets stay squarely in their faces.  The net has stopped many a false flag to this point, lets make sure that continues.  Thanks for all your support.  I guess the first will be the moment of truth as to whether we stay up or simply maintain this site as a resource site.  Bless you all and have a great day.  

Vatic Note: What is really great about this below, is it shows how transparent in every way, every day, that these people are.  THIS IS A MUST READ. SERIOUSLY! ITS PUBLIC EUGENICS POLICY WITHOUT A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.  NAZI GERMANY AGAIN, FASCISM AT ITS FINEST, don't believe me?  Read this. Can you see it coming? You will when you read this below. Gee, why am I not surprised.  They cut seniors "and permanently handicapped" food stamps to $26 dollars, and have basically Eugenics in the health care bill that would rid the planet of all these seniors and permanently disabled.

This is Rahm Emmanuals brothers wet dream, he is a eugenicist, remember?  We published about it way back when, its all his recommendations that he wrote up. REMEMBER, SENIORS CARRY HISTORY AND PASS IT ON TO THEIR FAMILIES.  So getting rid of them at this particular time in our history, is important.   Seniors went 3 years with no COLA while congress gave themselves one,  and then seniors got a pittance increase during election time.

THEN CONGRESS GAVE THE VAMPIRE SQUID, GOLDMAN SACHS, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BAIL OUT THROUGH UP FRONT AND BACK DOOR  WAYS SUCH AS INSURANCE PAYOFFS (AIG ring a bell?) THAT WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE BAILOUT.  So the whole point is to rid the planet of the "USELESS FEEDERS" (seniors & permanently handicapped) that Wall street ripped off of their savings, investments and homes IN THE 2008 MARKET EXTRACTION OF WEALTH FROM THE 401K PROGRAMS TO THE TUNE OF 2.7  TRILLION DOLLARS. You can tell, I am mad. You will never be allowed to build a retirement, since they want you dead.... but they will encourage you to build it, so they can steal it from you when you are ready to retire. They did that in 2008 to 401K seniors and now they have to work until they die at any job that will hire them at that advanced age.

Eugenics, used to be a Nuremberg trial offense and death penalty sentence.   Lets not  forget that WALL STREET NOW HAS BIG TIME DERIVATIVES OUT, LIKE THEY DID WITH INTEREST RATES THAT STARTED ALL THIS,  AND THIS TIME ITS BETTING ON SENIORS DYING. Either they knew something that made it a sure bet, like someone is planning on killing them all off, or they intended to do it themselves using the government they now control through Geithner.  Its looks like from this article its actually wall street, and they are directing the death of so many seniors... so that makes sense since they are running the show after all.  Rothschild, the demon's spawn, should be ashamed. Rockefeller is not much better either.

So, here, below, is proof that Wall Street must need more money so they are aiming at the seniors to obtain it.  Now how low can you really go.   Oh, thats right,  their chemical companies took orphans ages 0-3 to use as guinia pig  experimental subjects for pesticides.  I almost forgot about that.  They were using them by feeding them pesticides to measure the reaction/impact on their health and growth.  Nice, huh?   So whatever they are doing to Seniors is about on par with Hitler and Mengeles, in their crimes against humanity.

Don't you think this is amazing how similar all this is?   Its like a replay that never ends. Maybe what we need to do is file a class action law suit and force them to pay back all the loans they took to finance their take over of America,from the social security "trust" fund. Then we need to include the codicil that if you did not pay into it, you do not get to take out from it.  That would work and fix everything.  No need to cut social security.   Take it out of the tarp bill, have the Fed Reserve pay into it and monetize the debt.  LOL  Just kidding.  

Wall Street  Group Behind Poll Supporting Social Security Cuts

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/wall-street-group-behind-poll-supporting-social-security-cuts/26689/
by # 1 NWO Hatr, World Report


Campaign America’s Future – by Richard Escow

The anti-Social Security propagandists should’ve thought this one through a little more carefully: On the same day that Goldman Sach’s CEO issued his “balanced” demand for Social Security and Medicare cuts, the Wall Street-funded group called “Third Way” published the results of a poll which precisely reflected the wishes of Goldman Sach’s CEO.

Coincidence? We report, you decide.

It certainly doesn’t look good when the poll in question contains misleading questions, is deceptively presented, and includes sentences like “Questions 50 to 55 held for future release.” Any remaining shred of credibility disappears in the face of numerous other polls which directly contradicts Third Way’s claims about these results.

Oh, and we almost forgot: Two of that group’s board members worked for that CEO.

Lord Lloyd Speaks

Wall Street’s latest lordly financial fatwa comes from notorious (VN: Rothschild controlled Zionist) con artist and bailout king Lloyd Blankfein.

Under Blankfein’s leadership Goldman Sachs has fraudulently deceived a wide range of investors, including pension and retirement funds for many of the very same Americans who would face even more financial hardship in their senior years if Blankfein’s orders are followed by our elected leaders.

Blankfein’s comments followed the anti-social contract movement’s inaccurate and misleading script to the letter:

“Social Security wasn’t designed to … support a 30-year retirement after a 25 year career,” said Blankfein. This is a variation on the “we’re living longer” argument that’s been debunked dozens of times. Americans who lived to the age of 65 are only living a little bit longer — and the ones living the longest are the wealthiest among us, not the ones who rely on Social Security.  (VN: That does not include the intentional killing off of seniors these bankers have done through their corporations they own in:

1. dumping chemtrails full of cancer cells, black mold, various fungus, which would attack and kill of seniors and very young children.
2.  Filling the food the seniors eat with pestacides, GMO seeds that are proven to attack various organs, and massive chemicals that would kill anyone. etc.
3.  Chemicals (Barium, Aluminum Nitrate etc) in the chemtrails that eat the cortex of the brain resulting in our record level now of dementia and alzheimers disease, which spares no one including Ronald Reagan.
4.   Fluoride in our water and heavy metals such as lithium which against attacks the brain. NOW YOU KNOW WHY THEY ARE DOING A "SURE" BET WITH THE DERIVATIVES, BECAUSE THEY ARE KILLING OFF THE SENIORS. I just want to be at those trials and watch when these satanists get hung. )

Blankfein’s prescriptions come straight from the script, too: “The retirement age has to be changed, maybe some of the benefits have to be affected, maybe some of the inflation adjustments have to be revised.”  (VN:  zionist blankfein does not run america yet. And never will if we have any say about it. He can relocate to israel and do his dirty work in his own country. Take the rothschilds with ya.  after all they are your boss. )

Well, gosh. By uncanny coincidence, that just happens to be exactly the kind of policy package proposed by Third Way  … and by the billionaire-funded individuals named Simpson and Bowles, who issued a personal proposal after failing to get one out of their Presidential commission … and by the billionaire-funded Rivlin/Domenici group(VN:  Has everyone written down these names??? If not, why not!  Get to it, write them down and get photos)

And it happens to be exactly the kind of package which Third Way’s outlier poll says Obama voters want to see. 

Are we getting the picture yet?

Balancing Act

The Wall Street austerity script now calls for an illusory gloss of “balance,” which is to be provided by adding a little “revenue” to these enormous cuts. (VN: Seniors in the streets will be the order of the day or living as a third party in the homes of their children) That’s the word of the day – “revenue” – instead of “tax increases.” The word “revenue” is used because the plan is to collect most of it from the middle class by eliminating tax deductions that it uses regularly. (VN: and there by divide the nation once again, pitting one group of people against another.  These are truly demonic animals with no soul at all or humanity, only power and wealth as their god.)

“In the long run,” says Blankfein, “there has to be more revenue.” See what he did right there? In the “long run” – not now. And although he says “the burden of that revenue will be disproportionately taken up by wealthier people,” he doesn’t say how.

On the other hand, he’s very specific about the cuts we need to make to Medicare and Social Security, starting now. Why?

“Because we can’t afford them,” says Blankfein.  (VN:  WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM "AND" GIVE BLANKFEIN AND HIS CRONIES TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BAILOUTS.  THAT IS WHAT HE REALLY MEANS!  I KNOW WE HAVE HIS PICTURE.)

Of course, Blankfein had no scruples about “affordability” when it came time to rescue Goldman Sachs in the bank bailout. That took some doing, since Goldman wasn’t a bank. But helpful government executives broke the rules so that it could become a bank — and then receive $10 billion in bailout money from the same taxpayers who would suffer if Blankfein’s social diktat ever became government policy.  (VN: and that was the upfront money they received,  but not a word about the trillions for their overseas banks, and AIG bailout used to pay off Goldman Sachs. These zionists really do think we are STUPID!  I HATE THAT!)

The Paymasters vs. the Public

We shouldn’t be surprised that Blankfein’s following the script, of course. He wrote that script — along with Republican billionaire Peter Peterson and all those who fund groups in the anti-Social Security movement, a cohort which includes Third Way and all the other pseudo-”centrist” and “bipartisan” groups.  (VN: Don't forget to write down Petersons name and get his photo.)

They’re pseudo-centrist, rather than truly centrist, because the real American majority passionately opposes their ideas. Seventy percent of voters were “uncomfortable” with the Simpson Bowles proposal when it was published.

A stunning majority of Americans opposed cutting Social Security for deficit reduction, including 75 percent of registered Republicans and 76 percent of self-described Tea Party members.

One of the latest studies to reaffirm these findings was a Campaign For America’s Future/Democracy Corps poll conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner immediately after the election. That poll showed that all voters – not just Obama voters – wanted the government to emphasize job creation and economic growth over deficit reduction.

The poll also found that voters opposed the Blankfein/Third Way proposal for Social Security cuts by 62 to 31 percent.

Outliers

In light of numerous polls like these, it was striking, if not stunning, to see that Third Way’s poll had uncovered such radically different findings. And yet they tell us that it did. The group’s new press release blares, “Obama Voters Say ‘Let’s Make a Deal.’”  (VN: when are we going to realize we can believe "nothing" of what these people say.  I don't even believe the results of the election, we can trust nothing in any of our institutions anymore and they could care less what we think as long as it doesn't cost them.  if it does, then they care.)

Obama voters want “real compromises,” says Third Way. A deal should include both tax increases and spending cuts. And they think that changes that fix Medicare and Social Security would be better than no changes at all.
How do you explain such a dramatic variance?

First, by understanding that a lot of these “findings” aren’t what they claim to be. Some aren’t findings at all. When Third Way says that “only” a “miniscule” five percent of those polled want to fix the deficit with tax increases only, they’re debunking a position that nobody holds — nobody.

What progressive would oppose cuts to defense spending, for example? Or eliminating the cost of greed from our healthcare system?

Third Way also hoodwinks its interviewees – and the public – when it says that “Obama voters are worried that the safety net pillars of Social Security and Medicare are in fiscal trouble and believe they should be fixed.”

Nobody questions Medicare’s fiscal troubles – which are best addressed by eliminating runaway greed in our healthcare system. Combining “Medicare and Social Security” into one “fiscal” problem is the oldest trick in the anti-Social Security book.

Throw in a deceptively-worded question[1] and you’ve got yourself a phony conclusion.

Remembrance of Things Unseen

Third Way says breathlessly that “fixing” Social Security and Medicare was “second only to raising taxes on the wealthy” for these voters. What they don’t say is that all of these issues wound up in a narrow band of priorities which ranged from 8.09 on the high end to 7.13 on the low end.

At least, as far as we can tell. Their report withholds some data, saying that questions 1-12, 15-22, 30-35, 45-48, 50-55, and 61-81 are being “held for future release.” That’s 52 out of 81 questions. Are these questions on different topics?

Do they reinforce Third Way’s claims? Undermine them? Do neither?

We don’t know. What we do know is that poll results are heavily influenced by the combination of topics raised, the order in which they’re raised, and the phrasing of each question (which affects the answers to subsequent questions).
By withholding this information, Third Way is rendering its findings even less credible than they already were.

Motive and Opportunity

So how do you really explain these findings?

This may help: Third Way’s board is dominated by financiers from a variety of Wall Street firms, including fraud-riddled JPMorgan Chase and … Goldman Sachs.

This kind of transparently fraudulent data massaging wouldn’t be worth the few minutes it takes to debunk it, if not for the fact that so many Washington decision makers fall for it. So do credulous reporters.

That has to stop. Third Way’s deception has to be seen for what it is: just another ploy by a small cadre of folks in Washington – in this case, a Democratic cadre – who have hired themselves out to the Lloyd Blankfein contingent in order to mislead us into making destructive and draconian cuts to our social safety net.
Lloyd speaks, they listen, we believe.  We can’t do anything about the first two steps — but we can put a stop to the third.
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[1] “Which would be better for the country? The President and Congress make changes to fix Social Security and Medicare? OR The President and Congress make no changes to Social Security and Medicare?” Note how the question a) combines the two programs; b) tells interviewees they need “changes” to be “fixed”; and then asks if it would be better to make those “fix”-ing changes … or not.  (VN: Whats new, we know they are criminals, they practice deception, disinfo, propoganda, and now they are trying to permanently get bail outs as a way of life every year.  it is the entire purpose of globalizing, which was to make slaves of all productive americans and die off those who are no longer productive. this is their age old agenda and this above fits it perfectly

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