Vatic Note: Looks like riots are continuing in Greece, here is an update of the latest one, which was much more of a battle, since the demonstrators learned from the last one to come better prepared to match the violence of the police, and they did. Well, if you watch the video all the way through you will see that things are not going so well in elite land. This demonstration along with the one in Italy is beginning to show the anger the people are experiencing and how very willing they are to stand no matter what and its turning very violent in response to the police brutality the people had suffered in previous demonstrations, this time they were ready to fight back. You can see the shift as each one gets worse on the part of the people and the cops were actually cowering through most of it since the people were using gas filled bottles and setting them on fire and throwing them into the middle of the police line up. I do believe something is going to break. No World war because I don't think anyone anywhere is willing to fight in it given what we now know about who and what. Keep the faith. We can see from this that all is not lost. If united we can overcome and maybe change the outcome. Time will tell.
Video of Greece riots as fire bombs, stones fly in Athens - 1 day ago
http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday?has_verified=1#p/u/0/AuJZdWTiaJM
From: RussiaToday
December 15, 2010
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Hundreds of protesters clashed with riot police across central Athens on Wednesday, smashing cars and hurling gasoline bombs during a nationwide labour protest against the government's latest austerity measures. The former Minister for Development Kostis Hatzidakis was attacked by protesters outside a luxury hotel. He was escorted, bleeding from the scene as his attackers yelled "thieves" at him.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday?has_verified=1#p/u/0/AuJZdWTiaJM
Thursday, December 16, 2010
Additional reports "From The Greek Streets" publication,
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/
More than 100,000 people marched in central Athens today against the freshly-voted labour relations law and the austerity measures imposed by the government and the EU/IMF/ECB troika. (VN: The source of everyones problems globally, the EU/IMF/Central Banks, just like here, so maybe globally the battle in the next world war will be one against the International bankers, now that would be worth fighting) One of the most mass demonstrations the city has seen in recent times was met by brute police violence; the police, nevertheless, proven unable to quell peoples’ anger.
A former conservative minister, Kostis Hatzidakis, made the unfortunate decision to be present at Stadiou Street at the time of the demonstration and felt the anger of the demonstrators, quickly leaving the scene injured. Street-fighting erupted across the city, which saw chaotic scenes for hours. Barricades were erected across Patision Avenue, which leads to the Polytechnic School; waves of demonstrators arriving at Syntagma square, outside Parliament, fiercely fought with the police. An – eventually unsuccessful – attempt by demonstrators to occupy the building of GSEE (the country’s mainstream trade union) saw people fighting off the notorious Delta motorcycle police and two of their bikes were set ablaze.
From reports coming in so far, 23 people were detained in Athens today and of those 10 are arrested and face charges. There will be an update on the arrested tomorrow.
One of the most empowering elements of today’s demonstration was peoples’ sheer anger and their willingness to fight back at the police repression and to defend their right to be on the streets. New tactics, including the incredibly successful use of fire extinguishers in keeping police away from demonstrator blocks, is surely a legacy for the struggles to come.
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Be respectful in your comments, keeping in mind that these discussions will become the Zeitgeist of our time that future database archeologists will discover. Make your comments worthy and on the founding father's level in their respectfulness, reasoning, and sound argumentation. Prove we weren't all idiots in our day and age. Comments that advocate sedition or violence are not encouraged. Racist, ad hominem, and troll-baiting comments might never see the light of day.
Well...another instance of a European country of unarmed citizens willing to fight it out with the police, and even roughing up a former Minister of Development. While armed Americans are impotent, cower, and accept everything being done to them in the U.S. Is this not irony?
ReplyDeleteAnd Americans will NEVER unite. You should forget that fantasy. It's too diverse.
So...ummmm...get use to the New World Order.
No, there is some good news. Always look for the silver lining. Are you going to be forced into uniting? Yes, why?? Because we have lived to long with the ILLUSION of freedom and they are fully destroying that illusion. The diversity is our strength.
ReplyDeleteNo one has a greater commitment than those who had the courage to leave their homes and seek freedom. Once they see it will be like where they came from, they will fight right along with us. I saw something yesterday that was great and I will share it with you, so you can see its not as hopeless as it seems, check this out and its true.
"World's largest self-financed army ...guess who?
The state of Wisconsin has gone an entire deer hunting season without someone getting killed. That's great. There were over 600,000 hunters.
Allow me to restate that number. Over the last two months, the eighth largest army in the world - more men under arms than Iran; more than France and Germany combined - deployed to the woods of a single American state to help keep the deer menace at bay.
But that pales in comparison to the 750,000 who are in the woods of Pennsylvania this week. Michigan's 700,000 hunters have now returned home. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia, and it is literally the case that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.
The point? America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.
Hunting -- it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security."
We may come into a change in our entire environment but THE PERVERTS will not be in charge of it. We can make it what we want, starting locally and growing from there.
I'm still not convinced, "starting locally and growing from there".
ReplyDeleteAmericans are pacified by a delusion of "voting them in, and voting them out", as if that actually does something. The Elites can make their millions and billions either in the public sector or the private sector, and get laws passed that benefit, protect, or further entrench themselves as your masters.
And with Americans watched, monitored, computerized, and surveiled, well Americans can try to get things changed at a local level -- but if they know what's good for them they had better keep their noses clean and not make any REAL changes. this is actually what 'getting things done at the local level' means. The System will be the same System regardless -- but Americans will only *think* they are doing something. You will still be getting the shaft every which way, only the Punch and Judy show goes deeper, and Americans will 'feel good' because they believe themselves to actually be doing something. That's a laugh. I watch it play out every day. They get to call in C-SPAN's Washington Journal every day to let off steam, as a pressure cooker. That's why the program Washington Journal is in place.
And these deer killers will, after all, still want to indulge in their blood rituals, and there will be change here because when the chips are down, deer killing does not compare to actual anarchy or revolution of any sort.
This nation is still too diverse for a united stand. Illegals and others come here to get a job, they are not fleeing anything that even remotely resembles a British 'persecution of religion'.
As to this, it is documented in many of Charles Dickens's novels -- and so many other places -- that these were religious Christian fanatics bent on shoving down the throats of the Britians a 'Christian' religion of their own devising. Dickens gives a feel of what these fanatics were like.
They later voluntarily left Britain and became a plague upon the land of America.
Fanatical religious zealots like the Puritans, and then a host of hundreds of differing Christians sects evolved, all claiming to Know the Mind of God, including the Mormons -- all fanatics, and all believing in "doctrines" of their own makings, based for the most part upon their own ignorant prejudices.
You seem the eternal optimist. Not that this is bad. But I've experienced enough of human nature to know that rule by any Public will be just as fascist, just as totalitarian, just as fleecing the public at every turn, as any other system that 'humanity' can devise.
You have to be a fool to believe in a Fool's Paradise. King Solomon might have said that, it's so true.
Yes, I do believe you are right to a point, we have lost something precious from the social engineering that these perverts did to us since the 50's when they began to take control of the Education system of this country on a serious level. They also split up the family unit, which left kids as latchkey kids and with TV, the state got to take over their education from 3 in the afternoon until parents got home from work. That has definitely done damage, no doubt about it.
ReplyDeleteIf you have read this site at all, you will find that "Satanism" has been the driving force of the perverts and not religion per se. WE could discuss that one all day long, but its been the demise of true christianity that has undermined the moral fibre of this nation to the point where gay sex is being taught in our schools and believe it or not, the protocols of the perverts that are doing this to us, have told us 100 years ago they were going to undermine our society through our children with "Moral Depravity" and do so through their own people.
That is a whole other discussion as well. If you had to read all that I have read, discovered, found and analyzed and confirmed, believe me, you would know there is a chance to save us, but only after many many many of us have died. I didn't say it would be easy, I said we could do it.
Right now in our town, as a community they are doing so many things against the feds it isn't even funny and they believe they have their men in place in our sheriff's dept but they don't. LOL The sheriff and deputy sheriff have attended meetings of citizens who are unhappy, and they have committed to fight for us and deputize the entire town should it come to that.
We our county council approve building grow domes here, have classes on how to grow our own food, etc, all of which is against the feds laws they are passing.... TOO BAD, nobody is going to follow their laws and if they try anything they are in trouble. LOL
There will be towns that will do as you say, truly, but when they see us succeed they know they can as well and will change. People just need a sense of empowerment and as they win small battles that sense increases and grows. Its happening already. This is a good discussion, but I have other things to do on this blog, so I have to cut it short, but I assure you I would love to continue.
Yes, this is a good discussion. I have rarely gotten this far with anyone while trying to explain what I see. So don't feel a need to hurry and reply. When you have time is fine for me. In the meantime, just a few points.
ReplyDeleteI have heard over and over about these Protocols. Some say they don't exist, some say they do. But where is the original kept, do you know? Pointing to some possibly imaginary "Protocols", and worse still, blaming everything on "Satanism" implies that a Christian fundamentalism is actually the driving force behind a lot of these conspiracy theory ideas that make them *sound* crazy, which then blurs the line between Reality and fanatical religious ideas.
Or, though some of these conspiracy theory ideas may be utterly correct in their estimation, this religious overlay ("Satanism" ohhh a scary loaded word to be sure!) takes away from the possibility that these conspiracy ideas hold water and are valid.
In other words, my objection is this 'scary' appeal to an amorphous "Satanism".
On another level, I suppose you might mean the Freemasons, as it is believed by some they are worshiping 'the devil'. On this level things can get deep.
My understanding is they believe in Lucifer (via Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma, I think) the Bright and Morning Star, the bringer of knowledge to a Mankind that would have been left in ignorance if left to the Maker. At this juncture you must consider the ideas of the ancient Sumerians, and see the connection on whom the Hebrews drew their Old Testament stories. Remember, the Old Testament stories practically begin with Abraham who lived in
Sumer 'when God told him to leave and be given a country of His own choosing'. Right?
They, the Hebrew (or the Israelite) writers of the Old Testament, left out the part about the creators of Mankind, the Annunaki -- Enki (aka Ea) and Enlil -- the two rival brothers now appear. Kind of like the two rival brothers Cain and Abel. In the Sumerian myths, one hated Mankind and want him kept a working slave, for which mankind was created to be. The other brother wanted to teach Mankind knowledge in all things: agriculture, writing, mathematics, everything (just as we read about what the gods from ancient civilizations did).
In other words, the ancient myths from Sumeria were CHANGED BY THE WRITERS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEBREWS/ISRAELITES -- TO SUIT THEMSELVES to be as 'the Apple of God's Eye' and The Chosen, etc.
I say all this because I don't know how deeply you have looked into things. All this may be news to you.
Now back to the Freemasons who put to the fore Enki, the assistor of Mankind, known to the Freemasons as the Bright and Morning Star, or better yet, an interpretation can be made for the snake in the garden of Eden. It is said the snake wanted to open the eyes of Adam and Eve so that they too 'might be as gods'.
ReplyDeleteAs to me, I take an objective view, so scary ideas of "Satanism" leave me skeptical at best.
But there is no doubt in my mind things have changed, but imo this can be due to simple technological advances -- which then leads to changes, then other changes, etc.
Peoples ideas must change also, otherwise everything is kept static, the unchanging 'status quo'.
It is possible, then, that change is simply uncomfortable to many people who have been entrenched in made-up religious ideas about 'what God wants' etc. and also entrenched in their own prejudices and ignorance. People that cannot adapt to change start looking for someone to blame.
For me, there's a mix of things at play, both good and bad. But there is no secret the System sees to it no one gets ahead who is below a certain level of income. At this point, yes, something is wrong.
You once mentioned where you live, a rather remote area. What you describe about the learning of growing your own foods, etc., sounded to me what is planned for global depopulation, and a little outpost is ideal for getting everyone on the same page.
And the world *is* too populated, and who does't know it? Is it the Elites fault if humans breed too much and use up finite resources? Of course the Elites themselves use up these finite resources in making their money and getting richer and more powerful.
But your little area (I'd like to live there myself) is right to prepare. There is a disturbing movie I've watched several times about an apocalyptic future. It is very realistic. Too realistic even. It might well be the vision of the future:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_(film)
Such a vision of the future I still have to wonder who's fault it is? Humanity, that never stops breeding, or the Elite Masters who must ever find ways of feeding, clothing, schooling them, so that they can vote for the best on American Idol? And just take a look at Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol getting in on the act! A real good example for the young, eh?
Someone said that while everything changes, everything remains the same.
Anonymous, have you read or watched any of the videos or articles or documentation on satanism that we have had on this site??? You see, the point isn't whether satan exists or whether you personally believe he exists. What does matter is if THEY believe he exists and acts accordingly.
ReplyDeleteMurdering and sexually molesting little children after kidnapping thousands of them have nothing to do with advancements in technology unless its to make it easier for them to do their satanic deeds. In that sense, I hope to that God you ridicule, that we do not change to accept such horrors on our children. What kind of person are you that would see this as excuseable under any circumstances????
You are helping me to see why we must go down and those that are like the vermin filth that has pervaded our society, our culture and our government and industries must go down with them so the sane can start over again.
I am the least afraid of change of anyone or I would not be able to do this blog given my age and yet I am doing it. So that argument does not hold water.
The question is "what kind of world, culture, and civilization do you want to live in???" That is the question regardless of the technology. Do you want an inhumane, machine like culture? Do you want a sense of community type culture? Do you want one that devalues human life? Do you want one that celebrates the power and beauty of human life and consciousness?
Those are the key questions, because whatever we want is what we will become and thus we will create in this world. Think hard on it before going to deeply into the mental which is limited and start tapping into the heart which is unlimited as scientists are now discovering.
Forgot to respond to the protocols, I will put up a link here for you. They are real, they were the subject of a 1919 Military intel investigation and congressional hearings on the threat, after the overthrow by international jewry of Russia. Our military became very concerned that the United states might be next since Russia fell and many countries that were satellites were coming under the advancement of that revolution, financed by international Jewry Or Khazars if you will since they are not really Jewish. And the findings were, that "yes, they were a threat". And wilson who had been blackmailed declared the results of the study as top secret and they stayed that way for 50 years or more.
ReplyDeleteIf we had listened back then and Wilson had not sold us out we would not be where we are today. If you want, I will dig up those links but that will take some time, and I am happy to do it, but first I want to be sure you are open minded enough to make it worth my while. A closed mind is a waste of time for both of us. Let me know.