Vatic Note: Just think about this for a moment and the implications. Remember yesterday we viewed an article on a psychology today author who said that "conspiracies" represent a mental illness, and that was written by the elitest school trained psychologist (princeton who gets funding from the Tavistock Human Relations division of their psychology institute in Great Britian) which means this is an approved and funded project for this psychologist who has no regular full time job anywhere, but is touted by the neocon owned press as a great guy. See other article from yesterday. So today we see this happening to a military officer who is expressing his dissent, whether you agree with him or not, when did we ever resort to a Hitler type treatment of someone who exercises his right to free speech? He should have been handled the same way the military handles anyone who disobeys an order, so why do this? Are we moving closer and closer to that pot of warm water beginning to boil???
The Travistock Institute in Britian was the Rockefeller funded org that helped to institute the CIA here in America and provided all the training necessary on Psychops for that org. Later, we will be doing a whole piece on the Travistock Institute so you can see the pervasion of this organization into our institutions. Even Truman said, he had no idea what the CIA did and wished he had never allowed it to exist.
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Title: Army Suggesting Brain Scan on Decorated Physician for doubting Obamas Eligibility
Posted By Europe On 05/04/2010 @ 2:35 am
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/04/army-suggesting-brain-scan-on-decorated-physician-for-doubting-obamas-eligibility/print/
By: EU Times
The U.S. Army is – unofficially – suggesting a brain scan and medical evaluation for an officer who announced he would refuse to follow further orders until and unless President Obama documents his constitutional eligibility to be commander in chief.
A spokeswoman for the developing case of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a flight surgeon with 18 years in the service, said the recommendation came to Lakin today from an officer whose name was not being used who implied that those higher up the chain of command thought it was a good idea.
The suggestion was described to WND by spokeswoman Margaret Calhoun Hemenway, a veteran Washington appointee and now volunteer spokeswoman, as being presented in a “solicitous” manner.
Officially, the U.S. Army says it has no plans for formal action at this point against the officer. But the controversy also raises the prospect that the government may be unwilling to pursue a prosecution because of the possible ramifications – including a defense demand for a court-ordered discovery process that would target Obama’s historical documentation.
As WND reported, Lakin is an active-duty flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey’s pilots and air crew.
The top-ranking, highly decorated officer says he’s refusing all orders until Obama releases his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to prove his eligibility to serve as commander in chief.
“I feel I have no choice but the distasteful one of inviting my own court martial,” Lakin said in a statement. “The Constitution matters. The truth matters.”
He continued, “For the first time in all my years of service to our great nation, and at great peril to my career and future, I am choosing to disobey what I believe are illegal orders, including an order to deploy to Afghanistan for my second tour of duty there. I will disobey my orders to deploy because I – and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people – deserve the truth about President Obama’s constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief.
“If he is ineligible, then my orders – and indeed all orders – are illegal because all orders have their origin with the commander in chief as handed down through the chain of command.”
See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential eligibility mystery!
Lakin is not the first active-duty officer to raise the challenge. Others have included Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook. But Lakin is the highest-ranking officer to raise the question.
In a statement to WND today, George Wright of Army Public Affairs said the Army has “no reaction” to Lakin’s statements, and “at this point, the Army will take no formal action.”
He said, “Lt. Col. Lakin has stated his intent to violate Articles 87 and 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but has not done so. Whether his actions to date violate any law or policy is for his chain of command to determine.”
Wright said the Army had no information on in-channel concerns Lakin previously raised in 2009, and there was “no comment” on whether Obama needs to document his eligibility to serve as president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the commander in chief be a “natural born citizen.”
Although a “natural born citizen” is undefined in the Constitution, many legal analysts believe the requirement was put there to prevent dual allegiances on the part of the president. Some believe those with dual citizenship would be ineligible. Obama wrote in his book his father was a subject to the United Kingdom, making Obama likely a dual citizen.
“Lt. Col Lakin is free to express his personal views. The Army has no comment on his concerns, nor the views that he espoused,” Wright told WND.
Hemenway said the medical suggestions were delivered to Lakin today while he is on leave, only hours after WND contacted the Pentagon and Army headquarters, asking for comment.
She said the suggestion – at this point – remained “informal.”
But the background already has been assembled in the case, should there be a prosecution, for the defense to come to court with specific demands for proof of the validity of the chain of command, up to the commander in chief.
Support for Lakin is being generated at the Safeguard Our Constitution.com website, established by the American Patriot Foundation.
One of the organizers behind the group, serving in emeritus status, is John Hemenway, an attorney who previously fought in the U.S. court system on behalf of a retired military officer, Gregory S. Hollister, who also questioned Obama’s eligibility.
The case ultimately was dismissed by Judge James Robertson who ruled that the dispute had been “twittered” during the 2008 election campaign.
In that opinion, Robertson sarcastically wrote: “The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his commander in chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel’s satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.
“The issue of the president’s citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court,” Robertson wrote.
The judge also suggested sanctions against Hemenway for bringing the case, and Hemenway responded that process then would provide him with a right to a discovery hearing to see documentation regarding the judge’s statements – not supported by any evidence introduced into the case – that Obama was properly “vetted.”
Hemenway warned at the time, “If the court persists in pressing Rule 11 procedures against Hemenway, then Hemenway should be allowed all of the discovery pertinent to the procedures as court precedents have permitted in the past.
“The court has referred to a number of facts outside of the record of this particular case and, therefore, the undersigned is particularly entitled to a hearing to get the truth of those matters into the record. This may require the court to authorize some discovery,” Hemenway said.
WND columnist Vox Day earlier wrote about this very scenario, calling it a “Get out of war” free card.
The comments followed the case of Cook, the reservist who challenged his deployment orders over questions about their legality under Obama.
“Rather than contesting the suit,” Day wrote, “the Army took the highly peculiar step of revoking the major’s deployment order, suggesting that the Pentagon generals are not entirely confident that they can demonstrate the legitimacy of their purported commander in chief.
“The Pentagon’s decision to back down rather than risk exposing Obama’s birth records to the public means that every single American soldier, sailor, pilot and Marine now holds a ‘get out of war free’ card. Not only every deployment order, but every order issued from an officer in the line of command can now be challenged in the knowledge that the top brass are afraid to respond for fear that their commander could be exposed for a fraud.,” he wrote at the time.
“It is one thing for Obama to deny the curiosity of the American public by hiding behind the courts. It is very much another for him to deny the right of the men and women of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines, who are sworn to risk their lives upholding the Constitution of the United States of America, to be certain their orders are legitimate,” he said.
Calhoun Hemenway, who separately writes for FamilySecurityMatters.org, told WND she is an unofficial spokeswoman for the case and that Lakin’s legal counselors have suggested he not comment a great deal at this point while he is on leave and before he returns to his duties.
Calhoun Hemenway, a former White House appointee serving in the Department of Defense and at NASA, said the Lakin case presents a problem for the Army, since it cannot simply “rescind” orders as it has in previous military disputes over orders under Obama’s chain of command.
That’s because Lakin has indicated plans to reject all orders.
In his video message now posted on YouTube, Lakin, an 18-year veteran personally pleads with the president to stop withholding the key document which would put to rest many of the doubts that continue to linger more than a year into Obama’s term.
“President Obama, I ask you to respect and uphold the Constitution. Be transparent and show your honesty and integrity. Release your original, signed birth certificate, if you have one, thus proving your birth on American soil, and thus assure the American people that you are lawfully eligible to hold the office of the presidency and serve as commander in chief of the Armed Forces.”
At FSM, Calhoun Hemenway wrote, “LTC Lakin, a native of Colorado whose residency is Tennessee, has explained to his superiors that he cannot understand how his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution does not allow military officers to pursue proof of eligibility from the commander in chief. In fact, efforts on his part to seek affirmation of the president’s constitutional eligibility have been met with legal evasions.”
The website set up for his case reveals that he pursued two separate internal complaint procedures in 2009, trying to ascertain the needed information.
Despite the posting on the Internet of an electronic copy of a “Certification of Live Birth,” more information is needed, Calhoun Hemenway wrote.
“The Western Journalism Center released an authoritative explanation of the Obama birth controversy that helps to explain the confusion on Capitol Hill which revolves mostly around Obama’s online Certification of Live Birth (COLB),” she wrote.
That explanation says: “The Certification of Live Birth is not a copy of the original birth certificate. It is a computer-generated document that the state of Hawaii issues on request to indicate that a birth certificate of some type is ‘on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.’ And there is the problem. Given the statutes in force in 1961, the Certification of Live Birth proves nothing unless we know what is on the original birth certificate. There are several legal areas (involving ethnic quotas and subsidy) for which the state of Hawaii up until June 2009 did not accept its computer-generated Certification of Live Birth as sufficient proof of birth – or parentage – in Hawaii. Why should the citizens of the United States be content with lower standards for ascertaining the qualifications of their president?”
Obama’s actual response to those who question his eligibility to be president under the Constitution’s requirement that the U.S. president be a “natural born citizen” has been to dispatch both private and tax-funded attorneys to prevent anyone from gaining access to his documentation.
Besides Obama’s actual birth documentation, the still-concealed documentation for him includes kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.
WND has reported on a multitude of cases that have been brought over the issue of Obama’s eligibility. Some are by critics who have doubts about whether he was born in Hawaii in 1961 as he has written, and others are from those who question whether the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens – Obama’s father was a subject of the British crown at Obama’s birth – from being eligible for the office.
The issue has prompted a number of state legislatures to work on proposals that would require presidential candidates to submit proof of their eligibility. And a similar proposal has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.
The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
However, none of the cases filed to date has been successful in reaching the plateau of legal discovery, so that information about Obama’s birth could be obtained.
The White House has not replied to numerous requests for comment.
The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
The Travistock Institute in Britian was the Rockefeller funded org that helped to institute the CIA here in America and provided all the training necessary on Psychops for that org. Later, we will be doing a whole piece on the Travistock Institute so you can see the pervasion of this organization into our institutions. Even Truman said, he had no idea what the CIA did and wished he had never allowed it to exist.
Part I
Part II
Part IV
Title: Army Suggesting Brain Scan on Decorated Physician for doubting Obamas Eligibility
Posted By Europe On 05/04/2010 @ 2:35 am
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/04/army-suggesting-brain-scan-on-decorated-physician-for-doubting-obamas-eligibility/print/
By: EU Times
A spokeswoman for the developing case of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a flight surgeon with 18 years in the service, said the recommendation came to Lakin today from an officer whose name was not being used who implied that those higher up the chain of command thought it was a good idea.
The suggestion was described to WND by spokeswoman Margaret Calhoun Hemenway, a veteran Washington appointee and now volunteer spokeswoman, as being presented in a “solicitous” manner.
Officially, the U.S. Army says it has no plans for formal action at this point against the officer. But the controversy also raises the prospect that the government may be unwilling to pursue a prosecution because of the possible ramifications – including a defense demand for a court-ordered discovery process that would target Obama’s historical documentation.
As WND reported, Lakin is an active-duty flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey’s pilots and air crew.
The top-ranking, highly decorated officer says he’s refusing all orders until Obama releases his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to prove his eligibility to serve as commander in chief.
“I feel I have no choice but the distasteful one of inviting my own court martial,” Lakin said in a statement. “The Constitution matters. The truth matters.”
He continued, “For the first time in all my years of service to our great nation, and at great peril to my career and future, I am choosing to disobey what I believe are illegal orders, including an order to deploy to Afghanistan for my second tour of duty there. I will disobey my orders to deploy because I – and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people – deserve the truth about President Obama’s constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief.
“If he is ineligible, then my orders – and indeed all orders – are illegal because all orders have their origin with the commander in chief as handed down through the chain of command.”
See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential eligibility mystery!
Lakin is not the first active-duty officer to raise the challenge. Others have included Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook. But Lakin is the highest-ranking officer to raise the question.
In a statement to WND today, George Wright of Army Public Affairs said the Army has “no reaction” to Lakin’s statements, and “at this point, the Army will take no formal action.”
He said, “Lt. Col. Lakin has stated his intent to violate Articles 87 and 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but has not done so. Whether his actions to date violate any law or policy is for his chain of command to determine.”
Wright said the Army had no information on in-channel concerns Lakin previously raised in 2009, and there was “no comment” on whether Obama needs to document his eligibility to serve as president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the commander in chief be a “natural born citizen.”
Although a “natural born citizen” is undefined in the Constitution, many legal analysts believe the requirement was put there to prevent dual allegiances on the part of the president. Some believe those with dual citizenship would be ineligible. Obama wrote in his book his father was a subject to the United Kingdom, making Obama likely a dual citizen.
“Lt. Col Lakin is free to express his personal views. The Army has no comment on his concerns, nor the views that he espoused,” Wright told WND.
Hemenway said the medical suggestions were delivered to Lakin today while he is on leave, only hours after WND contacted the Pentagon and Army headquarters, asking for comment.
She said the suggestion – at this point – remained “informal.”
But the background already has been assembled in the case, should there be a prosecution, for the defense to come to court with specific demands for proof of the validity of the chain of command, up to the commander in chief.
Support for Lakin is being generated at the Safeguard Our Constitution.com website, established by the American Patriot Foundation.
One of the organizers behind the group, serving in emeritus status, is John Hemenway, an attorney who previously fought in the U.S. court system on behalf of a retired military officer, Gregory S. Hollister, who also questioned Obama’s eligibility.
The case ultimately was dismissed by Judge James Robertson who ruled that the dispute had been “twittered” during the 2008 election campaign.
In that opinion, Robertson sarcastically wrote: “The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his commander in chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel’s satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.
“The issue of the president’s citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court,” Robertson wrote.
The judge also suggested sanctions against Hemenway for bringing the case, and Hemenway responded that process then would provide him with a right to a discovery hearing to see documentation regarding the judge’s statements – not supported by any evidence introduced into the case – that Obama was properly “vetted.”
Hemenway warned at the time, “If the court persists in pressing Rule 11 procedures against Hemenway, then Hemenway should be allowed all of the discovery pertinent to the procedures as court precedents have permitted in the past.
“The court has referred to a number of facts outside of the record of this particular case and, therefore, the undersigned is particularly entitled to a hearing to get the truth of those matters into the record. This may require the court to authorize some discovery,” Hemenway said.
WND columnist Vox Day earlier wrote about this very scenario, calling it a “Get out of war” free card.
The comments followed the case of Cook, the reservist who challenged his deployment orders over questions about their legality under Obama.
“Rather than contesting the suit,” Day wrote, “the Army took the highly peculiar step of revoking the major’s deployment order, suggesting that the Pentagon generals are not entirely confident that they can demonstrate the legitimacy of their purported commander in chief.
“The Pentagon’s decision to back down rather than risk exposing Obama’s birth records to the public means that every single American soldier, sailor, pilot and Marine now holds a ‘get out of war free’ card. Not only every deployment order, but every order issued from an officer in the line of command can now be challenged in the knowledge that the top brass are afraid to respond for fear that their commander could be exposed for a fraud.,” he wrote at the time.
“It is one thing for Obama to deny the curiosity of the American public by hiding behind the courts. It is very much another for him to deny the right of the men and women of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines, who are sworn to risk their lives upholding the Constitution of the United States of America, to be certain their orders are legitimate,” he said.
Calhoun Hemenway, who separately writes for FamilySecurityMatters.org, told WND she is an unofficial spokeswoman for the case and that Lakin’s legal counselors have suggested he not comment a great deal at this point while he is on leave and before he returns to his duties.
Calhoun Hemenway, a former White House appointee serving in the Department of Defense and at NASA, said the Lakin case presents a problem for the Army, since it cannot simply “rescind” orders as it has in previous military disputes over orders under Obama’s chain of command.
That’s because Lakin has indicated plans to reject all orders.
In his video message now posted on YouTube, Lakin, an 18-year veteran personally pleads with the president to stop withholding the key document which would put to rest many of the doubts that continue to linger more than a year into Obama’s term.
“President Obama, I ask you to respect and uphold the Constitution. Be transparent and show your honesty and integrity. Release your original, signed birth certificate, if you have one, thus proving your birth on American soil, and thus assure the American people that you are lawfully eligible to hold the office of the presidency and serve as commander in chief of the Armed Forces.”
At FSM, Calhoun Hemenway wrote, “LTC Lakin, a native of Colorado whose residency is Tennessee, has explained to his superiors that he cannot understand how his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution does not allow military officers to pursue proof of eligibility from the commander in chief. In fact, efforts on his part to seek affirmation of the president’s constitutional eligibility have been met with legal evasions.”
The website set up for his case reveals that he pursued two separate internal complaint procedures in 2009, trying to ascertain the needed information.
Despite the posting on the Internet of an electronic copy of a “Certification of Live Birth,” more information is needed, Calhoun Hemenway wrote.
“The Western Journalism Center released an authoritative explanation of the Obama birth controversy that helps to explain the confusion on Capitol Hill which revolves mostly around Obama’s online Certification of Live Birth (COLB),” she wrote.
That explanation says: “The Certification of Live Birth is not a copy of the original birth certificate. It is a computer-generated document that the state of Hawaii issues on request to indicate that a birth certificate of some type is ‘on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.’ And there is the problem. Given the statutes in force in 1961, the Certification of Live Birth proves nothing unless we know what is on the original birth certificate. There are several legal areas (involving ethnic quotas and subsidy) for which the state of Hawaii up until June 2009 did not accept its computer-generated Certification of Live Birth as sufficient proof of birth – or parentage – in Hawaii. Why should the citizens of the United States be content with lower standards for ascertaining the qualifications of their president?”
Obama’s actual response to those who question his eligibility to be president under the Constitution’s requirement that the U.S. president be a “natural born citizen” has been to dispatch both private and tax-funded attorneys to prevent anyone from gaining access to his documentation.
Besides Obama’s actual birth documentation, the still-concealed documentation for him includes kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.
WND has reported on a multitude of cases that have been brought over the issue of Obama’s eligibility. Some are by critics who have doubts about whether he was born in Hawaii in 1961 as he has written, and others are from those who question whether the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens – Obama’s father was a subject of the British crown at Obama’s birth – from being eligible for the office.
The issue has prompted a number of state legislatures to work on proposals that would require presidential candidates to submit proof of their eligibility. And a similar proposal has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.
The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
However, none of the cases filed to date has been successful in reaching the plateau of legal discovery, so that information about Obama’s birth could be obtained.
The White House has not replied to numerous requests for comment.
The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
Obama has posted the official birth certificate of Hawaii. He is the first and only US president to show his birth certificate. The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only one that Hawaii issues. It no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html).
ReplyDeleteSo, it is the only birth certificate that Obama can show. That is the birth certificate Hawaii sent to Obama in 2007, and it is the birth certificate that it sends to everyone. And the facts on the birth certificate–that he was born in Hawaii in 1961–were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii, and they are members of a Republican governor’s administration.
First of all, here is the info on his birth cert. Not that I wanted to argue the issue since that isn't the point of this column....however, there is enough to justify the mans decision. I have lived long enough to experience Presidents whose papers have been released to the public in the past, just like McCain had to do when his birth in Panama became an issue. He released it right away with no ado about it all. Not so the case with Obama.
ReplyDeleteDocument forensics expert: Obama "birth certificate" a "horrible forgery"
By Israel Insider staff July 20, 2008
http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enDispWho=Article%5El12993&enPage=ArticlePage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enVersion=0&enZone=Politics&enScript=PrintVersion.jsp&
Then if Obama would present this at trial, it would end the entire discussion....
Why are these Barack Hussein Obama documents off-limits to Americans?
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
18. Punahou grade school records
Now having said all that, don't you believe the point of this article should be addressed which is that mental illness is used, just like Hitler when anyone questioned him about himself and his background? Dissidents are many in this country right now, so its a much more relevant issue than whether Obama is legit. If he is not, then he is acting like an occupier instead of a president.