Vatic Notes: We just had this discusstion yesterday. Is this to set precedence for the "enemy combatant" designation and thus strip Americans of their citizenship as provided under the Security Enhancement Act? Thus allowing the administration to then treat him/her as such with torture, no habeas corpus, unlimited imprisonment, rendition, no due process at all, no disclosure of information by the defendant, no attorney, etc. See http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/03/us-searching-for-radicalized-americans.html
Source: http://www.opednews.com/articles/American-Al-Qaeda-Spokesma-by-Rob-Kall-100307-399.html
Title: American Al Qaeda Spokesman Captured-- Will He Be Tortured, Tried as American or Enemy
By: Rob Kall
Date: 03/07/2010
CNN Reports "Adam Gadahn, an American citizen who has repeatedly appeared as spokesman for al Qaeda, has been arrested in Pakistan, CNN reports they were told by senior Pakistani official.
He was arrested in Karachi Pakistan.
Gadahn has been charged with treason by the US. Washington was offering a $6 million reward for his capture.
This will be very interesting, as it is at high risk of becoming a political football, along the lines of the Guantanamo prisoners. Will he be tried in US courts or by military tribunals as an enemy combatant?
Will he be afforded the rights of American citizens by his captors or will the Pakistanis torture him and ignore the rights he would have as a US citizen.
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What time tomorrow are we all supposed to be rounded up?
ReplyDeleteI can scarcely imagine him getting a trial by jury. More likely, they'll hold him until they can get the McCain-Lieberman bill passed, then try him by military tribunal.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine what could happen if he received a trial by jury, and he used the argument that no war has been legally declared? Or that the war in Afghanistan was not against Al Qaeda but against the Taliban? What about the defense that, since Obama is not really the President, troops under his command had no right to arrest anyone?
No, they certainly won't give the guy a trial by jury.
Anonymous, we are still in the process of working out an agenda. Our first meeting was about the direction we wanted to go in and it took about 2 hours to hash that out, but now the mission statement has been accepted, the "to-do" list has been added to and some things taken out and then we are going to have another meeting in about a week, since some research had to be done and provided to see if we can do fund raising and whether to incorporate this effort, so we are still checking on that.
ReplyDeleteI thought it would all be settled by now, but unfortunately some practical things had to be dealt with.
Suffice it to say we did make excellent progress and the enthusiasm level is up. In fact, I just heard that we are almost number 1 on the search hit list for being so new. So, keep the faith we are getting there.
If you have signed up with us, you will be notified by email as to the date and time to meet on the chat. I don't know what country you are in, but it will be important you provide the city and state and country so we can coordinate by the time zones. OK????
Go to people-to-people link above and you will see the email address to send your information. We need name (even computer name is ok), email address, and city and state and country. OK???
Jerry, Great observation and analysis. I had not thought about the argument about Obama which would give the accused standing from a "due process" perspective and would not work in a military court since they are run by the neocons appointed by Cheney (the real president at the time) and reappointed by Obama (Rahm, the real President now, LOL).
ReplyDeleteOur meeting went well and I will be using the email to send out info, so watch for it, I have a lot of notes to sift through and put together so it will take me a couple of days to finish and get it up. One of the issues that came up is about how different everyones' military is structured and the rules surrounding such and the ability to reach them for this initiative.
If you can come up with a suggestion on that let me know. We were at a complete loss to figure that one out. We know for the US, but not for the other countries.