tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post4084644521401183524..comments2024-02-27T08:10:51.019-07:00Comments on The Vatic Project: The Russell Bloodline. THE WATCHTOWER & THE ILLUMINATI - Part 11 of Illuminati FamiliesM. C. Brueckehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11749873350461333806noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-82093232106848675162012-06-11T10:53:04.080-06:002012-06-11T10:53:04.080-06:00Thanks so much for clarifying all this. Its appar...Thanks so much for clarifying all this. Its apparent you have done some massive research on this and we appreciate your sharing it with us. our objective here is truth.<br /><br />It matters not who provides it, but that it is put out there. Its fascinating how these illum families and their puppets are able to use so many legitimately created organizations and groups to front for them with the illusion becoming the new reality. <br /><br />Your comment has further elucidated just how adept they are at doing this and pulling it off. Thanks again for such a great discussion.Vatic Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12100917896532169496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-46694528052981051752012-06-09T14:44:17.561-06:002012-06-09T14:44:17.561-06:00Thanks for allowing me to present the other side o...Thanks for allowing me to present the other side of the story, to the best of my ability.<br /><br />Russell did indeed was main founder of the origianl legal entity The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. He started that legal entity, however, as service, not to be a religious organization such as the "Jehovah's Witnesses". Within a few months after Russell died, the legal entity as Russell intended for it to be had virtually destroyed, as Rutherford had new by-laws introduced which he deceitfully had passed without giving the voters an opportunity to read them; they were passed simply on Rutherford's word that such needed to be passed in order to keep the WTS active. The WTS after he died is therefore, in effect, not the same WTS that he founded, since Rutherford did not uphold the terms of its original design.<br /><br />Technically, yes, Russell was the main founder of the original Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, but the religious organization, "Jehovah's Witnesses", did not exist in the days of Russell. Russell never believed in such an organization, and certainly not that any such "outward organization" could scripturally claim to be "the true church."<br /><br />The Bible Students movement, as a whole, rejected Rutherford's new organization; they never became members of the "Jehovah's Witnesses" organization. By 1928, over 75% of the Bible Students were no longer associated with the WTS. Rutherford was left with only a remnant, but due to his new gospel message, he was able to attract thousands of followers, so that his organization, no longer presenting the glad tidings of great joy that is to be to all people, grew in numbers very rapidly.<br /><br />See:<br />The JW Organization, Armageddon, 1914, and Russell<br />http://ctr.reslight.net/?p=1556<br /><br />Regarding "organization", Russell's own words:<br /><br />quote:<br />I hold, and few, if any, will dispute it, that the one catholic or general Church of Christ is that mentioned in the Bible -- "the Church of the Firstborns, written in Heaven." If this be admitted, my next proposition is that the Lord in Heaven records as members of His true Church all the saintly - whether Roman Catholics, Anglican Catholics, Greek Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, or Presbyterians, etc. -- and none others.<br /><br />Have we not here the one Church, catholic, universal, the only Church which the Bible recognizes? In the past we have been too narrow and have supposed that God was as narrow as ourselves. It was on this account that Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists persecuted and were persecuted, each thinking itself the true Church. Are we not all getting broader conceptions of our God and of His Church? Do we not see that we were mistaken in calling the outward organization the Church of Christ instead of remembering that the Lord alone writes the names of the Church, that He alone reads the hearts, that He alone is the Judge, and that He alone has the right to blot out the names of reprobates?<br /><br />St. Paul wrote against sectarianism, already manifest in his day-some saying :"I am of Paul"; others, "I am of Peter"; etc. The Apostle asks, "Is Christ divided:" (1 Corinthians 1:10-13) He explains that these sectarian names signified a spirit of division that failed to recognize the true Head of the Church, His true representatives and His true members. The entire foundation of divided Christianity would disappear and the true Church of Christ be speedily manifest, if true catholicity were acknowledged.<br />:endquote<br /><br /><a href="http://rlctr.blogspot.com/2008/09/xf01-catholic-church.html" rel="nofollow">http://rlctr.blogspot.com/2008/09/xf01-catholic-church.html</a>Ronald Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428695352830083280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-25958717540783828732012-06-08T19:03:03.732-06:002012-06-08T19:03:03.732-06:00I did a fast look on Google and by golly, there ar...I did a fast look on Google and by golly, there are volumes of stuff saying Charles Tazer Russell started the Watch Tower society. Could I please impose on you to find me the link you used to decide he was not involved and let me check that out for myself and my readers??? Thanks.Vatic Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12100917896532169496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-51248951575154463832012-06-08T18:47:43.707-06:002012-06-08T18:47:43.707-06:00Thank you for all that great information. Can you...Thank you for all that great information. Can you tell me which of the massive numbers of footnote references are not being quite honest? Its been difficult tracking all this for all these families and Fritz does say that some connections are tenuous at best, but he does not say that about the gentleman you are talking about. <br /><br />When my partner gets back, I will go down that rabbit hole you gave us to view and let you know what I think. I can't right now because I have to handle this by myself for now. The week of June 27th, I will be gone for some legal matters, so he will be handling this by himself at that time. Thanks for commenting.Vatic Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12100917896532169496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-61679229284045108022012-06-08T12:38:56.531-06:002012-06-08T12:38:56.531-06:00I just noticed that I left the word "not"...I just noticed that I left the word "not" out what I stated in first post. I stated:<br /><br />I have tens of thousands of pages of Russell's works that provide overwhelming evidence was a Freemason,...<br /><br />This should have read:<br /><br />I have tens of thousands of pages of Russell's works that provide overwhelming evidence was NOT a Freemason,...Ronald Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428695352830083280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-41901792918817368682012-06-05T20:34:56.423-06:002012-06-05T20:34:56.423-06:00This is my furhter comments:
I have found no evid...This is my furhter comments:<br /><br />I have found no evidence whatsoever that Russell was cremated three days after his death. Nevertheless, even if he had been, one would have use the spirit of human imagination to think that this had anything to do with Satanism, occultism, the Masons organization, or the Rosicrucians, etc.<br /><br />I have found no evidence that Russell, himself, owned a cemetery. I do understand that the Rosemont Cemetery was owned by some of his associatess. It is possible that Russell, through the United States Investment Company (which was a partnership which invested in real estate in order to provide funds to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society) may have "owned" an interest in the Rosemont Cemetery, on behalf of the WTS (I don't know this to be a fact, I simply present as a possibility). At the time of his death, however, the WTS evidently only owned a plot in the Rosemont Cemetery, not the entire cemetery. However, one has to call upon the spirit of human imagination so as to assume that any such ownership, if it actually existed, had anything to do with Satanism. One would wonder, however, since Russell spent nearly all of his time in the matters related to dispensing the Gospel and related activities of the WTS, where he found time to be allegedly slaughtering people and buring them under caskets of the Rosemont Cemetery!<br /><br />Russell was never in support of any New World Order through man's efforts; the tens of thousand of pages of his works overwhelmingly attest such. Whether there are those associated with the today's Watchtower that supports such, I don't know. I am not with the JWs (nor was Russell).<br /><br />As to Russell secretly supporting something that he was spending almost all of his time sabotaging is ridiculous, to say the least. I have been studying Russell's works for more than 50 years; I absolutely know that Springmeier is way off the target about Russell.<br /><br />Much of what I has discussed above I have presented in more detail on my website:<br /><a href="http://ctr.reslight.net" rel="nofollow">http://ctr.reslight.net</a>Ronald Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428695352830083280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5848012286026687939.post-15172562773538732912012-06-05T20:31:57.372-06:002012-06-05T20:31:57.372-06:00I am submitting this in more than one post due to ...I am submitting this in more than one post due to Google's length limits.<br /><br />Charles Taze Russell was never a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization; he did not believe in such an authoritarian organization. Nor did Russell preach the bad tidings of great woe of eternal destruction in Armageddon for most of the peoples of the earth that the JW leadership teaches. Russell certainly did not start an organization that he preached against.<br /><br />Charles Taze Russell was most definitely never a member of the Freemasons' organization. I have tens of thousands of pages of Russell's works that provide overwhelming evidence was a Freemason, whereas no one has presented any factual evidence yet that shows that he was a member of the Freemasons. All that is ever presented is what is being imagined and assumed.<br /><br />C.T. Russell did not believe in Enochian Magic.<br /><br />C. T. Russell did not believe that Christian congregations are subject to any central "governing body."<br /><br />The only "illuminati" that C. T. Russell believed in was the illumination of the Bible by means of God's Holy Spirit.<br /><br />Russell's Biblical "sun of righteousness with healing its wings" illustration has nothing at all to do with Enochian Magic. Russell never presented any Enochian Magical planes, or ever discussed such.<br /><br />The only Serpentine bloodline that could scripturally be produced in existence today is that of Adam, who became a son of disobedience, and through whom all of his descendants have been condemned. All (the whole human race) of that serpentine bloodline may avail themselves of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus.<br /><br />Russell preached against the occult; he was not into practicing occultism.<br /><br />C. T. Russell did not believe in any ritual of saying "no" to the body of Christ.<br /><br />As yet, I have not seen anyone produce any evidence that Satanist speak of the Millennial Dawn of Christ's thousand years to rule over the earth, except that some may have borrowed such from Russell's usage of that phrase. <br /><br />When did C.T. Russell’s Bethel staff became concerned about his occultic activities and required him to take an oath forswearing any further occultic activities? I have found no evidence that such an event ever happened, and so far, no one has given me any facts to say that such ever did happen.<br /><br />The only mention of any kind of healing handkerchiefs in Russell's works are references to the Bible. <br /><br />Springmeier's 35 alleged "parallel beliefs that Russell had with Masonry" are contrived out of his imagination by means of distorting and misrepresenting what Russell taught and projecting the beliefs of some of the Masons as being the teaching of Freemasons as a whole.<br /><br />Several years after Russell died, Rutherford had a replica of God's witness in Egypt constructed in the middle of the plot owned by the WTS in the Rosemont Cemetery. There is nothing at all about Rutherford's pyramid monument, however, that is connected with the Freemasons' organization, nor with the Rosicrucians, etc. I highly doubt, however, that Russell "ordered" the construction of that monument.<br /><br /><a href="http://rlctr.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rlctr.blogspot.com/</a>Ronald Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428695352830083280noreply@blogger.com